Knightmare

what do u think of rewards for completing seasons? @Gion

Who wants to farm some ggds tonight?

I think the ADMIN team needs to listen to the players' suggestions to know what they need and want

Early transfer might not be the best option,  but adding the possibility to make seeds and low drop in socket sets its the ideal to keep up the gameplay after this 20rr stage ends which is over in less than a week

I'm frustrated because of the fast progress of genesis, and the domination. It feels like everything we invested on Inception worth nothing there.

Y let me play 2 servers at once, can’t wait to play both CS at same time with my 4 arms 🐙 🤮 🤮 🤮 🗑 

too fast too dangerous from genesis and too bad from admin
If there is no change, I believe that before passing to genesis, Inception didn't exist for more than 100 players.

In this way probably all Genesis will have sockets +13 and quit already bored until we go there with our 13 lk dd hp sets  .I`m soprry to tell you but you fucked Inception hard by opening too soon Genesis. You must do something or loose both servers soon

i agree with him , me personally i been spend lot of money + time in this game and the people on genesis already got gear better then me what it;s a bit unfair 
and it's just the start of the serv 13 day's when gonna make the transfer they already got socket and all that strong gear what will destroy us easy

Totally agree , some of my friends already quit and probably many more will quit soon since they are not motivated to play anymore , no content.. i was present at 36 bq , and from 36 bq i saw 1 weapon 380 drop , from 36 BQ !!! people on genesis have already more 380 weapons and not to say socket weapons , there is no balance , there will be no balance..

+1
The game is already pretty much rip, who tf wants hunt GGD's 2 months.

another suggestion could be to give some reward for completing seasonal editions, like gold fenrir . something that motivates people to play the seasons and flex on the main. if only way to get a gold is to play the editions until max, youll find many players jumping on all your seasons. 

whatever u say, GM will say NO
he doesnt listen to your opinions just like the dead phoenix
BUT I REMEMBER, the previous description of this Inception said that only it includes sockets and end-contents (others Inception NO), but maybe GM removed it lol

Agree, we can notice a decrease in no of players on inception not saying that releasing the content will bring them back but will make the ones that are still here stay, not getting bored of hunting goldens all day.

+1

IMO we are get fucked a bit , beacuse in the inception we can't no do the progress like ppl on the Genesis ok we known it from the since , but how the dog is that working , we are playing 73 day overhere , we are 17 reset  to the genesise they are doubled  well thats 34 , Ppl in the 10 day are 46 =))))))) WHERE they did normaly 23 reset , they jumped our stage , they are doing medusas , they are doing selupan , they got almost sets socket done , how thats work in the Inception ,400 online 20 char in w3 wings ;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD , When the fussion going to be end , the inception char going be like Subs xDDDDD for those char from genesis , not fair a bit :))))))
In my opinion Genesis started 30 day too early  , there is too much exp , They are progressing like on the 99999 exp server ,
@Admin
U should to unluck the bosses NOW... Give to do the socket for us , open the full gameplay , if u dont u going to destroy the inception , next one will be not 600online there will be 200 , beacuse pointless to play the server where u can only to do w3 and exe set , where ppl are almost done with sockets Weapons ;))))
GL Enjoy the gameplay still , beacuse all from us just know that gonna stay like is , beacuse no1 can destroy the admin vision like in the pheonix when 1 bk was killing alone around 13 char in the boss , BECAUSE THE BK IS ONLY PVP CHAR !!!!! 
Kisses  greetings from rain Poland 

Chukundah 100% right. Game it`s already boring all people got sets made and w3/Capes.

ye, im agreeing with afkkundach opinnion, for example in my str mg when i get w3 therre is nothing to do anymore, i can pray for some edr 2% aa sword drop but thats aint very "entertining", ading socets will give us some stuff to chase and keep us progresing, also it would make cs more important cheers

EDIT:

WERE MEDUSA

character name - Chukundah
suggestion type  - server
suggetion content - 

@ADMIN players in genesis soon will have all resets and farm all the avaiable content that in inception wont have ( sockets +seeds ) + will lvl way more  the ML before we do in inception , by the time we transfer there in january we have farmed nothing here besides harmonys to save for until then, cause all the ancients we get from erohim cc are literaly no use for them besides those who come whit luck to mix condor, is getting to a point that content here is getting pretty limited as we make more resets and farm pretty much nothing usefull .

i think many agree that a faster transfer or same content realease ( sockets+seeds ) would be a good way to keep up the pace whit both servers

How the suggestion can bring value - keep up whit both servers in content + activity

Release date: 18.11.2022 at 00:30 - No restart will be needed (unless something goes wrong).
Congrats to Tadeusz, Chocolope and Sosu for finishing the Stage 2.1!
Note: Everyone that progressed the Stage (having level 300+ and 15rr) can type /stagereward harmony in order to take the reward, after patch is up!
Changelog:
[UPDATED] You can now continue to reset up to 20 resets. [UPDATED] EXP for Stage 2.1 (15rr) is now removed. 15th reset does have the same exp table like 14th reset had. [UPDATED] 3rd Newbies EXP boost added: 0rr: 500% EXP (constant level 1-350). 1rr: 500% EXP (constant level 1-360). 2rr: 500% EXP (constant level 1-370). 3rr: 450% EXP (constant level 1-380). 4rr: 450% EXP (constant level 1-390). 5rr: 400% EXP (constant level 1-400). 6rr: 350% EXP (constant level 1-400). 7rr: 300% EXP (constant level 1-400). 8rr: +200% EXP. 9rr: +200% EXP. 10rr: +160% EXP. 11rr: +120% EXP. 12rr: +80% EXP. 13rr: +40% EXP. [UPDATED] Released GGDs. [UPDATED] Released Doppelganger Event & Sign of Dimensions in drop. [UPDATED] Released World Bosses. [UPDATED] Maximum number of players in guild is now 27. [UPDATED] Maximum number of players at CS is now 28. [UPDATED] Maximum Master Level is now 70.

I was announcing to sell 2 itens, guardian pants+11+L, that was with me in my inventory, and an ex dragon pants+DD that was in the web market, as the announcement in the print says.
He offered me one Sacred Fire Helm+11+L plus one Sacred Fire Boots+11 for the pants. I asked "for pants?". He said "yes". We went to elbland and we traded. We placed the itens in the trade window, he accepted it. After that he started cursing me and yelling at the /post chat that I was a scammer.
I would like to know if there's a punishment for ppl like that, because he's defaming my image, acusing me with lies in front of everyone in the server.

This is an early look at most of the changes related to our new economy ecosystem that will be found on Phoenix as well as on future Inception editions.
Pre-notes:
The main problem of our game activities was the lack of motivating rewards. Some events were giving too much, while some events were giving too little. And there was always the chance of getting something bad off a better reward.
One of the root problems was also the inflation of jewels from server. While they were attractive early on, their value just vanished during time due to the alts farm. 
One thing that always bothered us is that the market control was always in the hands of the biggest/most active players, while the rest of players didn't have much to say in the economy and had to "eat" the sometimes "insane" prices for some items.
We're also looking to address that with our new Old Box System, creating more opportunities for normal players to get in touch with valuable items and to spread them more equally across the game.
Jewels Changes
Jewel of Life
All items from game will now drop with add + 0 (non exc, exc, ancient & socket). Droprate from monsters highly reduced. Added in drop table of many events & mini-bosses. Jewel of Creation
Permanently removed from drop from monsters. Added in drop table of many events & mini-bosses. If you reach maximum amount of fruit points (100/115/127 based on character) - you will receive an extra 150 points to add. You need to have level 400 in order for the 150 bonus points to be active. Jewel of Bless
Droprate from monsters decently reduced. It will now be used for new mixes. Jewel of Soul
Droprate from monsters highly reduced. It will now be used for new mixes. Gemstone
Droprate from Kanturu3 & Relics highly reduced. Added in drop table in some other events/mini-bosses. Jewel of Chaos
Droprate from monsters highly reduced. Added in drop table of many events & mini-bosses. Extra Changes:
Loch's Feather, Crest of Monarch, Flame of Condor, Magic Backpack & Sphere level 4 now have an INSANELY LOW drop rate from monsters on their maps (you can consider that they aren't even dropping from monsters). Fenrir materials can no longer drop from monsters in spots (Kalima6). Icarus is now a normal levelling map. Quiz Event has been removed from game. Illusion of Kundun has been removed from game. With these changes we aim to:
Nerf the ALTS farm to the ground. Reduce inflation of jewels to keep them relevant across the game. Add new uses to some jewels in order to keep the IN/OUT flow of jewels in economy more balanced. Make the jewels & more important drops more accessible from different places outside of alt farm.
BoKs changes
Now BoK+1, BoK+2 & BoK+3 will all drop the same Set Items: Leather Bronze Vine Silk Pad Bone Violent Wind Scale Brass Wind Spirit Sphinx Light Plate Plate Dragon Guardian Legendary Adamantine Red Wing Sacred Fire Storm Crow Now BoK+4 and BoK+5 will both drop their specific Set Items as well as all the BoK+1~3 Set Items: Leather Bronze Vine Silk Pad Bone Violent Wind Scale Brass Wind Spirit Sphinx Light Plate Plate Dragon Guardian Legendary Adamantine Red Wing Sacred Fire Storm Crow Ashcrow Iris Eclipse Valiant Black Dragon Dark Steel Ancient Dark Phoenix Divine Grand Soul Glorious Storm Zahard Thunder Hawk Black Rose The BoKs will still drop their own tier weapons, where the higher the BoK the higher the weapon tier. Now the BoKs have progressive luck & 2/3 options rates as following: BoK+1: 20% chance for Luck / 15% chance for 2 options / 1% chance for 3 options. BoK+2: 25% chance for Luck / 20% chance for 2 options / 2% chance for 3 options. BoK+3: 30% chance for Luck / 25% chance for 2 options / 3% chance for 3 options. BoK+4: 40% chance for Luck / 35% chance for 2 options / 5% chance for 3 options. BoK+5: 50% chance for Luck / 40% chance for 2 options / 6% chance for 3 options. With these BoK changes we aim to:
Make the completion of a full 2 options excellent set harder especially early on. Motivate higher players to hunt higher BoKs since they can get the item they want (if they want a lower tier item) from the higher boks as well, but with way better chances for luck & 2/3 options compared to the lower BoKs. This will create more space & opportunities for the lower players to farm the lower BoKs themselves while still having chances (but lower) for good items. Extras:
In order to make the specific BoK+4/BoK+5 sets still possible to be completed in a timely manner (due to the new BoKs changes), we've added them as extra drops from: Kundun: 50% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2 options, apart from the normal reward. Nightmare: 100% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2, apart from the normal reward. Dark Elves: 30% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2, apart from the normal reward. New Old Box system
There are now only 3 Old Boxes instead of 5: Early Old Box, Mid Old Box, Late Old Box. There are no longer "rare items" - well, on Phoenix they never were there, but they won't exist anymore on Inception as well, starting from the next edition. There are no longer jewels in the Old Boxes (outside of gemstones). Each Old Box can be obtained on events based on their name. Basically, Early Old Box can be obtained from Early-Game events/bosses/mini-bosses, and so on. Each Old Box will contain ONLY relevant items/rewards for the content stage where they can be obtained.  Basically, Early Old Box will contain valuable Early-Game items/rewards, and so on. Old Boxes are still non tradeable and it is not possible to be moved to vault. There's now a new Chaos Goblin Mix for the Old Boxes, that will keep them relevant during entire edition, as following: You can craft a Mid Old Box by mixing: 3x Early Old Box 2x Jewel of Chaos 2x Jewel of Creation 4x Jewel of Bless 4x Jewel of Soul 60.000.000 Zen You can craft a Late Old Box by mixing: 3x Mid Old Box 5x Jewel of Chaos 5x Jewel of Creation 10x Jewel of Bless 10x Jewel of Soul 200.000.000 Zen This Mix will: Motivate mid-game/late-game players to still farm early/mid boxes. Giving new chances to average players to get late-game rewards, even if they can't contest the highest events/bosses. Give new ways of spending jewels & zen in order to boost the economy. Early Old Box rewards: EXC. BoK+1~3 set item with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options, for the class that drops the Old Box. Mid-Tier ancient for the class that drops the Old Box. Wings Level 1 +luck+5~9. Lochs Feather. Crest of Monarch. 10x BC. 10x DS. Magic Backpack. 20x Splinter of Armor / 20 Bless of Guardian / 5x Claw of Beast. Mid Old Box rewards: EXC. BoK+4~5 specific set item with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options, for the class that drops the Old Box. BoK+5 weapon with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options, for the class that drops the Old Box. Last tier exc weapon with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options, for the class that drops the Old Box. High tier ancient for the class that drops the Old Box. Wings Level 2 with the same chance for luck/options as the chaos mix. Piece of Horn. TOCA. 20x Gemstones. Flame of Condor. Late Old Box rewards: Socket Weapon for the class that drops the Old Box. 380 Weapon. EXC. last tier set item with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options, for the class that drops the Old Box. Broken Horn. Flame of Condor. Talisman of Luck (W4). Seeds (DD REF HP) Ring of GM - While being equipped, this ring will give the character maximum resistances to all attributes (ice, poison, lightning, fire, etc.) - basically making it immune from being moved / iced / poisoned. Rings/Pendants with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options. Events changes & rewards
Rabbits invasion They will now invade 4 times per day instead of 3 times. There are now 60 Rabbits / invasion instead of 90 Rabbits / invasion: Maps: 15x Lorencia, 15x Noria, 10x Elbeland, 10x Devias, 10x Dungeon. Reward: 65% chance for jewel (Bless, Soul, Chaos, Life) - 34% chance for 4.000.000 Zen - 1% chance for Early Old Box. White Wizards invasion There are now 3 WW per invasion instead of 5 and are now considered early-game bosses. There are now 30 Orcs per invasion instead of 50 and they spawn in different maps compared to the WW bosses: WW: Elbeland, Dungeon, Devias. Orcs: 15x Orcs Lorencia, 15x Orcs Noria. WW Reward: 10x jewels (bless/soul/chaos/life/creation) + 40% chance for Early Old Box + 15.000.000 zen. Orcs Reward: 10% chance for Wizard's Ring, 40% chance for Jewel (bless/soul/chaos/life/creation), 48% chance for 4.000.000 Zen, 2% chance for Early Old Box. Cursed Dragon & Bloody Witch Queen They will now spawn together, at the same time: 1 time between 17:00 and 21:59. 1 time between 09:00 and 12:59. Cursed Dragon: Early game boss. Reward: 1x Early Old Box + 10x jewels (bless/soul/chaos/life/creation) + 50% chance for Feather/Crest (35% Feather, 15% Crest). Bloody Witch Queen: Mid-Late game boss. Reward: 85% chance for Mid Old Box / 15% chance for Late Old Box + 20x jewels (soul/chaos/life/creation/gemstones) + 2x last tier EXC set items (GD, DM, etc.) with 2 options. Imperial Event Bosses are rewarding 3 Jewels (Soul/Life/Creation) + 10% chance for Talisman of Chaos Assembly. Optional objective: Kill the Statues and get 2~3 extra Jewels (Bless/Soul/Chaos) that anyone from party can pick. Sunday final boss: 1x Talisman of Chaos Assembly. Weekly records rewards: Having 35+ Points: 10x Jewel of Harmony + 1x TOCA + 1x Mid Old Box Having 25-34 points: 5x Jewel of Harmony + 1x TOCA + 1x Mid Old Box. Having 15-24 points: 5x Jewel of Harmony + 1x TOCA + 1x Early Old Box. Having 5-14 points: 5x Jewel of Harmony + 1x Early Old Box. Chaos Castle CC 1: 2 Jewels (Bless/Soul/Life/Creation) + 10% chance for Star (Rings/Pends exc) + 50% chance for Low Tier Ancient. CC 2: 3 Jewels (Bless/Soul/Life/Creation) + 20% chance for Star (Rings/Pends exc) + 70% chance for Low Tier Ancient. CC 3: 3 Jewels (Bless/Soul/Life/Creation) + 70% chance for Low Tier Ancient / 30% chance for Early Old Box.  CC 4: 4 Jewels (Soul/Chaos/Life/Creation) + 60% chance for Low-Mid Tier Ancient / 40% chance for Early Old Box. CC 5: 4 Jewels (Soul/Chaos/Life/Creation) + 50% chance for Low-Mid Tier Ancient / 50% chance for Early Old Box.  CC 6: 5 Jewels (Soul/Chaos/Creation/Gemstone) + 60% chance for Random Ancient / 20% chance for Early Old Box / 20% chance for Mid Old Box. CC 7: 5 Jewels (Soul/Chaos/Creation/Gemstone) + 60% chance for Random Ancient / 40% chance for Mid Old Box. Kanturu Event Rewards from Hands: 3 Jewels (Bless/Soul/Life/Creation). Rewards from Nightmare (BOSS): 1x Exc. Weapon (Knight Blade, Platina Staff, etc.) + 60% Chance for Mid Old Box + 100% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2 options, apart from the normal reward. Kundun Rewards: 2x Random Mid-High Ancients + 40% chance for Mid Old Box + 50% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2 options, apart from the normal reward. Medusa 4 Socket Set Items with 3 slots (and lower chance for Socket Shields with 3~4 slots) + 30% chance for Late Old Box + 10% chance for a 380 Weapon. Selupan Rewards: 5 Socket Set Items with 3 slots and 1 Socket Weapon with 4~5 slots + 50% chance for Late Old Box + 10% chance for a 380 Weapon.  Crywolf Event Balgass drop: 2x Mid Old Box & 3x PoH that anyone can pick at random locations near Balgass (in 12x12 range). Dark Elves drop: 30% chance to drop Mid Old Box, 30% chance to drop Exc. Weapons (Knight Blade, Platina Staff,etc.), 40% chance to drop 100.000.000 Zen + 30% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2, apart from the normal reward. Blood Castle rewards aren't currently set up. World Bosses rewards aren't currently set up. Illusion Temple IT will be changed to use the Inception's system where you can join on any IT level, everyone gets same amount of stats to add, there's the IT Queue, and so on. IT Rewards aren't currently set up. Skeletons Invasion Death King: 1x Early Old Box + 2x Magic Backpack.  Death Skeletons: 75% Magic Backpack / 25% Early Old Box. Wings Protector Reward: 100% Wings Level 4 Talisman + 50% chance for Late Old Box. Goldens BoK+1 Goldens have a 1% chance to drop an Early Old Box as extra reward. BoK+2 Goldens have a 2% chance to drop an Early Old Box as extra reward. BoK+3 Goldens have a 3% chance to drop an Early Old Box as extra reward. BoK+4 Goldens have 3% chance to drop an Mid Old Box as extra reward. BoK+5 Goldens have a 4% chance to drop a Mid Old Box as extra reward. Golden Budge Dragon has 5% chance to drop an Early Old Box as extra reward. Golden Derkon has 10% chance to drop an Early Old Box as extra reward. GGDs have a 10% chance to drop a Mid Old Box as extra reward. Hybrid Events OSGM - apart from the normal guaranteed rewards that will be described on each edition, each participant will have a 5% chance to receive an Old Box based on the current state of server (early game - early old box, and so on). BiA - apart from the normal guaranteed rewards that will be described on each edition, each participant will have a 10% chance to receive an Old Box based on the current state of server (early game - early old box, and so on). Soccer Night - apart from the normal guaranteed rewards that will be described on each edition, each participant will have a 15% chance to receive an Old Box based on the current state of server (early game - early old box, and so on). Arena Tournament - apart from the normal guaranteed rewards, each Last Laugh participant will have a 20% chance to receive an Old Box based on the current state of server (early game - early old box, and so on). These are currently the planned economy changes for the next Phoenix.
Conclusion: We highly believe that with this complex rework, our goals will be touched:
All of our events will be way more attractive in terms of gains. The alts will be highly nerfed compared to active players. The rewards will be better spread for most players to have access to. The bosses will be worth the fights for, between the top players. All of these changes are subject to change and may not represent the true, final version of the rework.
Some of the things aren't yet decided / changed but will be found in an updated official info topic before the launch.

We're waiting feedback.
 
Later Edit:
3 new things I can present you as well, looking for feedback:
Old Jewel
Old Jewel is a new mid-late game jewel, a custom one, that can either be mixed on Chaos Goblin or found in Late Old Box. Old Jewel can be used on excellent set items / shields with minimum level of + 11, that have 1 or 2 exc. options. Old Jewel will add +1 excellent option to the item (from 1 option to 2 options or from 2 options to 3 options). Old Jewel has 100% success rate on items. Old Jewel Mix: 30x Jewel of Bless. 30x Jewel of Soul. 10x Jewel of Chaos. 10x Jewel of Creation. 5x Jewel of Harmony. 300kk Zen. 5 exc set items (no weapons) + add12 (or higher). 40% success rate for the mix. The Mix goal is to give new opportunities to spend jewels, zen, and trash exc. items as well as to keep them relevant. Wings Level 4 Mix System
There's now only 1 universal Statue for all classes to mix: Goat Statue. It is no longer tradeable via Store (and still no other means). Goat Statue Mix: 4x Mid Old Box. 60x Jewel of Bless. 60x Jewel of Soul. 30x Jewel of Life. 20x Jewel of Chaos. 20x Jewel of Creation. 10x Jewel of Harmony. 1x 380 Weapon + 15 + Add16 (Any). 1kkk Zen. Wings Level 4 upgrade Mix: 1x Goat Statue. Wings Level 3 +15+Add16 (your class wings, if you mix SUM wings3 you will get SUM wings4, if you mix ELF wings3 you will get ELF wings4, etc.) 3x Late Old Box. 90x Jewel of Bless. 90x Jewel of Soul. 60x Jewel of Chaos. 60x Jewel of Creation. Talisman of Luck. 1.5kkk Zen. Note: Wings Level 4 will now 100% come with both options (ign & ref). Heart & Medals
Now there's only Heart of Love dropping. The set items that can drop from Heart of Love are now the set items that were dropping on both Silver Medal & Gold Medal + the violent wind set from old Heart of Love. The weapons that can drop from Heart of Love are now the weapons that were dropping on both Silver Medal & Gold Medal. Luck chance of Heart items is 35%. Items from Heart can be dropped starting from +6 up to +11 (with a 4% chance for +11 and 8% chance for +10). As per the new Jewel of Life change, all items from Heart will drop without ADD. Heart of Love will drop from monsters between Level 18 & Level 100 with a rate similar to the old Silver Medal rate.

@ADMIN Guild System: Maximum 20 players in a guild for all classes.

if server goes well whit the 20 max and there is 3 guilds strong and consistent on cs , can it be considered to stay like this and the 20+5 ally for cs as well?

and change it on the point were only 2 are highly competing 

I can't change such impactful settings during game, whenever "I feel like", unless it is really necessary.
There are 2 changes pre-announced, a +5 increase after Break 2 (25 players), and another +5 increase after the transition to Mid Period (30 players).

My suggestion is CS v3 in 15 players, golems should be win by the best dps, not last hit, because that can be pure luck. GM should not stay anymore on that coordonate for gaining +1 point because he is not usefull at all leading his guild to win. Why? Because he dont see the action. About the handicap I would like to see you giving the chance to that guild that win 4 cs in a row to start 5th Cs again with 1th handicap. Many task for such low members at cs will be fun and I think we can see 4th guild beeing there.