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3 hours ago, Conclave said:

current agi 17000

speed 888

(3key)skill - (4key)death stab - (5key)twisting slash, continue to hold mouse button (spam twisting slash for stun- optional)

(using pinky) qqqqqq, repeat, definitely doable without macro

Nice joke.  And SM got same just by using RMB.  And u got combo once per 3 skills. 😆  And isnt there agl bug on stab with this agi ? 😆 Lets see how many kills get u on cs vs sm/sum/eMG.

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16 hours ago, Princess PornStar said:

The only balance problem here is SM with Ice Strom skill and this is something that should be reduced Imo.

Are you telling me BK is so weak that he can only defeat Elf? Nonsense !
Wanna tell me on this stage Zutto could kill only Elfs ?

"BK with 10k vit" "BK with 13k vit"
This shows that you have no idea about playing this class

@Legioncan u see it ? xD High stats serv and BK with 10k hp

Past tense... And here is custom sv and bk doesnt work like anywhere else. For example combo doesnt work here like it should.  It has no BASE DAMAGE. : ] 15k vit with 42k+ stats its fine. :] aBK is useless. Str/ene with 20k+ stats hits lower then 10k ene SM/Hybrid Sum I wont talk about eMG or eSM.  

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1 hour ago, hellldrake said:

ofc he will hit harder with full agi and elf buff .what do u expect?

With 10k ene ? 😆 I had buff too. LOL. xD Ok nvm 10k damage stats >20k on bk. 😆  And thats what Im talking about. 😆

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9 hours ago, Spawn said:

I sincerely wonder how this story will end, you don't often see a person who sincerely believes that if he is a BK he can throw stats anywhere and still kill you. )

10k str vs 10k ene. :]  Its not "throw anywhere". Just simple math. Do ur homework.
 

5 hours ago, hellldrake said:

are you really that  sad?do you lack attention?

which agi sm was doing more dmg that the other classes?  what about your RF's who can 2 shot 95% of the srv? how is that balanced?

Lucifer was hitting harder then getting hit by combo.  

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8 hours ago, Spawn said:

now i understand why u weak, u just dolbaeb

GJ then. :] U cant see simple point. 
 

 

5 hours ago, CeptaVista said:

Bk dmg  is even 1:1:1 Str / Agi / Ene thats why Flat Agi build is most best ..  Compared to SM  who scale dmg from agility .. U just dont know and i guess u didnt test anything before u speak kalsiur , U need to read servers formulas 

Where is written dmg is scale from agi ? WTF? xD

 

Edit: Testet Agi does not scale DMG from Agi. So test anything before u speak.  
About BK build. Test before u speak. 😆 U know nothing about BK here. 

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Just now, Spawn said:

if u have Buff build, any balanced and adjustment didn't  help u, if u dont understand what ur concretly that stat build is shit in PVP, i cant help u.

I can see u are retarded.
Whats stats gives damage for SM ? Energy.  
Whats stats gives damage for bk ? STR+ENE+(AGI).
10k ene>27k+ STR+ENE+AGI. 😆 Legit.  If u have dont understand that u got some problems. xD

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4 minutes ago, Spawn said:

the fact is that having you tank statistics you can safely be in the center of the battle and attack, with the statistics that you have you will die in a couple of seconds without causing DMG. Is there a difference when SM-a is beaten on 500-1-2k and you on 5-8k ?

LOL read again whole topic. aSM did more damage then me. So he was tankier then me and did more damage then me. xD With half of his combat stats. xD"
Or try find PROS of BK witht corrent BALANCE.  

I will explain what balance mean. If u got range damage u got problem with close combat. But whats problem with that if u are tankier/higher dps/range/fenrir(faster) then close combat BK :? 😆 

I think u are missing the point.  

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4 minutes ago, Spawn said:

10k ene +15k vit... who do you want to kill with these stats ?? that its full support stats. and if u say what u put 10k str...rly mate i cant add somthink more. idk how can you complain when you have just terrible statistics

But U can kill most ppl with 10k ene reset vit/agi. 😆 Legit. xD Go and think about it. 😆 Its still 10k str+ 10k ene. 😆 More then just 10k ene on SM. xD Yea I think I need 20k str at least to go vs 10k ene SM+ rest vit+agi. 😆 Right ?

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Just now, Spawn said:

buff build without survive, vs 10k ene and full agi/vit build with hight speed and survive. Its big diference.

if u put another stats with 9-10k ene u too can kill if u will focus target with someone

15k vit 8k def set+13+dd+johdd... True no survi. xD Sorry not enough stats to survi and deal damage.  Maybe give bk 3xSM stats so it will be balanced. 😆 Coz still with 2xmore damage stats he deals more damage.  Joke joke. Cya.

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Just now, Spawn said:

9-12k ene and same str ?

Even if so its still more then 9-10k ene. 😆 Dont u think ?

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20 minutes ago, Spawn said:

mate, i ask about BK coz i have frame of full last CS, and curious to see what a BK comming on CS with full DPS build and cant do nothing

And I had 20k damage stats (str/ene)... On normal sv even agi is damage stats... but still losing in damage vs 10k ene. 😆 Legit ?

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7 hours ago, hellldrake said:

Rf wasn't killing you cuz he wasn't focusing on you.

First of all u need skill to play with bk ,

Second u  probably came with gear +9 no ddi and no proper rings /wings,

third point - it's all about your build ,buffs,elf buffs and team work. solo bk can't do anything im afraid:)

Well some tried couldnt do shit. 
U are joke I guess then?
13+dd+hp+5% joh dd. 😆

3rd. its about that CLOSE RANGE character got not enough damage/not enough damage. 😆

 

6 hours ago, Spawn said:

AgiSM can't do nothing solo, all him kills are work a fell ppls who focus one point, he just do last hit.

U dot answer me who from Bk coming with full dps build, and if u write about 27k str on bk I guess what u did know nothing about bk statbuild. 

I didn't remember exactly but Talespin gave me 12-16k dmg with combo, that is with him tank build. Its low u think?? I with full dps build, with 4 anc items with elfbuff make lower dps and kill just supports. U think its good for summoner ?  

 

For start to write here gave us some concrete facts of builds, but not your assumptions

Well that agiSM/hybrydsum/eMG was PVP dps...
Dont talk me about BK. :] I know my shit. I will make it simpler. 😆I got no range and with 2x more dmg stats Im not hitting as hard as some1 with range/aoe/cc. 😆 Balance? 

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11 minutes ago, hellldrake said:

how about nerfing RF? u can still pretty much kill anyone in 3 hits with a rf, he's been op for the last 3 months and nobody is doing anything about it.

 

Are u shitposting ? Topic is about sth else. :] RF wasnt killing me so well not so much OP I guess... Maybe Im wrong. 

 

5 minutes ago, Spawn said:

That is synonym on one-shot anyone ?? 

Idk the real situation with BK now, but if u start this topic after CS answer me pls, what Bk coming on That Cs with pure dps build ?? I didn't see any1, Talespin coming with a lot of hp and just tanking, who is second bk ??

Point click isnt "one-shot" its just about using 1 button to do damage. Its joke when u do combo and deal less damage then some1 with AoE. 😆 U are saying about pure DPS build. There was not even any ESM. And still did more then BK. U say about pure DPS for BK... Like 27k str so I will deal same damage like some1 with 10k ene ? 😆 Well would be nice if I wont die on 1 hit then coz Im not range and I need to use 3 skills with lower speed to make combo. 😆 Balance right?
 

 

 

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Idt its problem with SM. Its problem with staffs %%%% damage. Thats why eMG=>sMG.  And all magic class got boosted dmg... :] They nerfed combo here (fcked up like always here ofc) and nerfed %%% skill damage. :] So all str class got shitty damage. At least RF can do some point click damage and they are base on %%% damage.

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Im not talking about pve... Sum/sm/eMG hit more with point click skills or even AoE then bk with single combo...  Lets make dmg with stab like blast dmg then ?  And same range. 😆 LOL. BK can be kited and still if not he will do less dps then energy range class... Thats joke not balance at all. 

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Hi. Where is that "balance" when every energy class (point click or not even=> they just can AoE) do more dmg even then combo ? 😆
I dont know exactly dps but I think its like x10-20 then perfect combo SM/Sum/eMG. 😆 

Change my mind. :]

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On 12/15/2019 at 3:00 AM, ADMIN said:

There is nothing changed on combo formula. And ABK is the best build vs most builds, with few exceptions.

Then formula for combo should be changed?

If its change not on purpose its call bug, doesnt it ?

And Gaion u dont understend how combo works I think. 

 

So there is 2 parts of combo. first depending on stats (str+agi+ene)/2 (that part CANT BE reduced by def/absorb/dd etc)

+dmg of finishing skill (that CAN BE reduced by def/resist/absorb etc)

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Yea few exceptions, when u "fix" for crying ppl about RF.

U are saying that u did nothing with bk combo formula. Then its bugged.

So you are telling u are not going to fix bug.

 

W/e then, close and ignore? 

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Bump. I feel kinda ignored. :]

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So its bugged then. Can u fix that? 

Minimal combo dmg (ALWAYS) is...

 

(STR+AGL+ENE)/2+Dmg of last skill 

 

Stat part cant be reduced.

Skill dmg is reduced.

 

So for example 

STR 2000

Agl 2000

ene 2000

 

Skill dmg reduced to minimum for example 100

 

Then (2000+2000+2000)/2 + 100=3k (that cant be reduced)+100=3.1k combo.

 

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any admin/gm can reply for this ?

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Agl isnt too useful in pvp atck rate (it shouldnt but well)

 

Str dont make "combo" hit harder just "skill hit harder" coz combo is just a joke 1/5 dmg that should have. 

 

I hope some oficial could reply on this. ;]

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But it do combo is useless here agl bk is useless and there was no info about combo. Ive notice that formulas was changed. But combo in pvp ? After 5 rr. ;] Some1 post "formulas" but couldnt post it for bk combo thats little bit essentiale?

Thats makes that u should only play 1 build coz other are useless.  

And why change bk combo? 

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lol nope. For combo base dmg u dont. Thats why agl bk exist... Coz he got dmg from combo formula. Now there is only 2 type BK worth playing? Str or Vit?

 

DMG was reduced only for the last "skill" so even if u were doing 0 with last skill u should always hit combo 2250.  That cant be reduced and never was... -.-

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whats wrong with that ?

 

Base dmg combo=(STR+AGL+ENE)/2+skill dmg

So (700+3600+200)/2=4500/2=2250 

And Im here doing like 600 dmg lol.

 

Whats wrong?