Virulent Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 14 Reputation: 5 Joined: 12/29/2023 Status: Offline Device: Android Report Share Posted February 28 Hi Everyone, A comment/question regarding the new old weapons. The 25% chance of success is hilarious, given the cost, but that's not my main point: If an old staff/stick now grant +10% wizardry damage, then it is indeed a huge boost. But if a physical dmg weapon like sword, bow, claw, etc. get 20-30% base damage boost, it feels like almost no difference. Has this been tested in terms of final damage output? 'Cause for me it looks like wizardry gets a significant boost, and physical dmg is just a minor, really unnoticeable increase. Or am I understanding it wrong? Cheers, Viru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodnight Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 3 Reputation: 0 Joined: 11/28/2022 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted February 28 25% chance is absurd...some will get lucky and have 2-3 weapons day1, others will fail 20 times, just like for fenrir, and with high investment as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorphin Posted February 28 Group: Legends Content Count: 507 Reputation: 101 Joined: 05/10/2016 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted February 28 You care about that?😅 I feel like I'll be the only RF soon😂😂 Butcher 1 Quote I always tell the truth, even when I lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 3 Reputation: 1 Joined: 02/26/2025 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted February 28 I don't want to create another topic, so i will put my ideas here. MG i think will be better to decrease his dmg with 20% and increase his debuff with 20%,(current dps will be same) maybe this will help him to be useful in team fights vs tanks. Queen set on sum, need to repair or change applied lvl (200) on arena and IT. in this events she lose 20-30% defense. its cause lvl, this set start to work only after 383-385 lvl Lucifurr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virulent Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 14 Reputation: 5 Joined: 12/29/2023 Status: Offline Device: Android Author Report Share Posted February 28 41 minutes ago, Endorphin said: You care about that?😅 I feel like I'll be the only RF soon😂😂 I do care, I want the classes to be balanced, not necessarily my class to be the best And it seems like this patch generally gives the edge to wizardry, while leaving phys damage a bit behind. Lucifurr and Bennyto 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyto Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 50 Reputation: 13 Joined: 08/20/2024 Status: Offline Device: iPhone Report Share Posted February 28 Summoner, character what was most op in 1 vs 1 is buffed. Good job, i m gonna cry xd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 10 Reputation: 3 Joined: 12/14/2017 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted February 28 13 hours ago, Virulent said: Hi Everyone, A comment/question regarding the new old weapons. The 25% chance of success is hilarious, given the cost, but that's not my main point: If an old staff/stick now grant +10% wizardry damage, then it is indeed a huge boost. But if a physical dmg weapon like sword, bow, claw, etc. get 20-30% base damage boost, it feels like almost no difference. Has this been tested in terms of final damage output? 'Cause for me it looks like wizardry gets a significant boost, and physical dmg is just a minor, really unnoticeable increase. Or am I understanding it wrong? Cheers, Viru I totally agree with you. The cost of mix seems high for the percentage of success(token) and the benefit of the damage gain from the physical damage weapons doesn't seem that much. Another thing i would like to add is that huge percent of the elf's on this server play with crossbow(because of it's benefits),can we get an Old Crossbow too? Bennyto, Lucifurr and Doink 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodnight Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 3 Reputation: 0 Joined: 11/28/2022 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted February 28 I posted this in guild discord as well, but here it is: sm staff increase 10% is applied to base dmg. take the following scenario: 10k edr base dmg (no staff) 24.5k edr (with inberial 145% wiz) 25.5k edr (with the new staff 155% wiz) So the diff between 24.5k and 25.5k that is 4.08% overall increase, not as much as you'd expect... Now we'll have to see how much of a difference the melee weapons make...BB or other similar high-level weapons add more melee damage than listed in game, so the 20-30% increase is bigger than it looks on paper, it might actually bring it closer to that 4% of SM dmg gain...I guess they factored this in when they did tests (if they did tests for this). The 25% chance to succeed is still bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorphin Posted February 28 Group: Legends Content Count: 507 Reputation: 101 Joined: 05/10/2016 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted February 28 @ADMIN if u see this topic dont forget about CS participants/ ally. 30 is too much and even on officilal info u wrote its 25. About RF what can I say... non playable. DeepHouse and Bennyto 2 Quote I always tell the truth, even when I lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyto Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 50 Reputation: 13 Joined: 08/20/2024 Status: Offline Device: iPhone Report Share Posted February 28 true, this update is the end of rage fighters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepHouse Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 111 Reputation: 23 Joined: 07/25/2017 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted February 28 12 minutes ago, Endorphin said: @ADMIN if u see this topic dont forget about CS participants/ ally. 30 is too much and even on officilal info u wrote its 25. About RF what can I say... non playable. @ADMIN we understand the nerf 4% to the dmg , we understand the nerf of 25% pvm , all good . But why touch the defense and hp ? Bring it back to the era of no one playing rf? It`s no problem i change class, but you ruin a class. Especially these new old weapons , wizz classes get a boost, pshysical classes get almost nothing Endorphin and Bennyto 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroke Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 2 Reputation: 1 Joined: 02/28/2025 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted February 28 25% chance for a random token is smth crazy for the cost. Ok is for a final weapon and we have 380/soket to use, but 25% and random..Also coz u need 2 same weapon soket for at least try. Ok the powerful thing of +10 wiz (dunno for 30% of dmg ph) but if one make this weap, it will be really hard to fight him. Good for pvm and pvp with points and mercenary, but 25 is really too low.. if 40% and casual token it's a little more fair. Fenrir is difficult for low drop of items, only in k6, and then 25%, but old weap is really crazy. Maybe We need some new kind of chance for get 380+soket weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyto Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 50 Reputation: 13 Joined: 08/20/2024 Status: Offline Device: iPhone Report Share Posted February 28 @ADMIN rf is ruined :)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyto Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 50 Reputation: 13 Joined: 08/20/2024 Status: Offline Device: iPhone Report Share Posted February 28 and bk too......rip Butcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everam Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 2 Reputation: 1 Joined: 02/02/2024 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted February 28 7 hours ago, Nephilim said: I totally agree with you. The cost of mix seems high for the percentage of success(token) and the benefit of the damage gain from the physical damage weapons doesn't seem that much. Another thing i would like to add is that huge percent of the elf's on this sever play with crossbow(because of it's benefits),can we get an Old Crossbow too? Yeah I thought about that too, getting like 60 add dmg on Dark Stinger is totally not worth giving up the xBow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Posted February 28 Group: Members Content Count: 3 Reputation: 1 Joined: 02/26/2025 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted February 28 4 hours ago, Bennyto said: @ADMIN rf is ruined :)) Krize vs Roby 6-7 Roby wins Let's see in real pvp, not in duel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted March 2 Group: Members Content Count: 27 Reputation: 10 Joined: 06/04/2023 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted March 2 Bring back to teleport to crown and switch, since TP ally has CD. no point disabling it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM Group: Members Content Count: 176 Reputation: 44 Joined: 01/08/2023 Status: Offline Device: Linux Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroke Posted Wednesday at 08:44 AM Group: Members Content Count: 2 Reputation: 1 Joined: 02/28/2025 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:44 AM i see..admin and gion really interested to voice of community .. "please report bug and miss configuration"... write on official channel and not in discord.. there are so many post on forum and no one answer.. ty for listen ur community so. Bennyto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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