Bugbless Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 12 Reputation: 6 Joined: 05/20/2019 Status: Offline Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Hello, Could you please check SM's damage, it kind of looks that it's really low. I'm a ENE SM with a Staff +12 Exc Damage Rate / lvl/20 which is 112% wiz damage and it takes me 6 minutes to kill +4 while MG with a non excellent weapon can kill it in 1 minute. I don't know how much stronger I should be to be able to kill a single golden. And please don't answer me with non senses like get better gear or wings cause even with full Enis with 2 parts Anubis staff +15 and wings 4th lv + 15 I will kill the +4 golden for 3 minutes. montana94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colossus Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 48 Reputation: 35 Joined: 10/02/2019 Status: Offline Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 SM: ESM -> With focus mostly on Energy for full MS & PvM potential. Hybrid -> With focus on both AGI & ENERGY for full PvP potential. Main PvP Skill: Blast (Cometfall). As you can see ,SM can't HUNT .PvM is on spot (holders).sMG can HUNT if u check the topic with characters build . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pershing Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 70 Reputation: 33 Joined: 03/05/2017 Status: Offline Device: iPhone Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Colossus said: SM: ESM -> With focus mostly on Energy for full MS & PvM potential. Hybrid -> With focus on both AGI & ENERGY for full PvP potential. Main PvP Skill: Blast (Cometfall). As you can see ,SM can't HUNT .PvM is on spot (holders).sMG can HUNT if u check the topic with characters build . Thanks for letting us know. I'm pretty sure no one has read it before. No shit, Sherlock. Regarding SM I think the same that it's designated only to hold a spot or pvp. That's why I've made typical pvp SM coz I was sure there is no chance to change anything with pvm dmg for SM. You can look at the pvm rankings to see that there is not many SM's who kill goldens. It's a bit unfair and seems to be completely unbalanced at this stage of the game but let's trust what admin is saying and hope that it will change over time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana94 Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 25 Reputation: 2 Joined: 04/16/2020 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 learn to play, learn to build , learn the game and the system . stop crying cause ur bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex. Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 106 Reputation: 38 Joined: 08/14/2019 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 There is defently something fishy with SM atm. I don't know how it will scales with talents and the extra points, but atm, in DS6, last spots are always guarnateed for SM ) maybe the lack of wiz. enh. spell might be a good reason, IDK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugbless Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 12 Reputation: 6 Joined: 05/20/2019 Status: Offline Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Please, people who do not play SM this season to not talking non senses. About Devil Square I'm doing it twice almost every day (DEVIL SQUARE 6) and I'm telling you that SM is not designed for DS, BC, SPOT, PVP, GOLDENS or whatever else is out there due to his low damage. EMG with 1 lv wings non exc staff on level 220 does the same dmg as me you can check my shitty items on site. Hybrid RF with non exc weapons up to does 35% more damage on spot with much higher attack speed. Hybrid -> With focus on both AGI & ENERGY for full PvP potential. - PXAPXAPXAP... don't make me laugh please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana94 Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 25 Reputation: 2 Joined: 04/16/2020 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Bugbless said: Please, people who do not play SM this season to not talking non senses. About Devil Square I'm doing it twice almost every day (DEVIL SQUARE 6) and I'm telling you that SM is not designed for DS, BC, SPOT, PVP, GOLDENS or whatever else is out there due to his low damage. EMG with 1 lv wings non exc staff on level 220 does the same dmg as me you can check my shitty items on site. Hybrid RF with non exc weapons up to does 35% more damage on spot with much higher attack speed. Hybrid -> With focus on both AGI & ENERGY for full PvP potential. - PXAPXAPXAP... don't make me laugh please learn to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 138 Reputation: 29 Joined: 03/28/2020 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Bugbless said: Please, people who do not play SM this season to not talking non senses. About Devil Square I'm doing it twice almost every day (DEVIL SQUARE 6) and I'm telling you that SM is not designed for DS, BC, SPOT, PVP, GOLDENS or whatever else is out there due to his low damage. EMG with 1 lv wings non exc staff on level 220 does the same dmg as me you can check my shitty items on site. Hybrid RF with non exc weapons up to does 35% more damage on spot with much higher attack speed. Hybrid -> With focus on both AGI & ENERGY for full PvP potential. - PXAPXAPXAP... don't make me laugh please EMG is better on Golden / PvM, because that's the only thing it can do. He dont have a good burst of MS on ML, no have TP or other features compare to SM. I'm not writing here about a helm, that is missing and allegedly makes it weak, because it is compensated by additional points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 2 Reputation: 2 Joined: 04/21/2020 Status: Offline Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 EneMG has got HIDDEN Built-in PVM bonus to his damage, exactly 20% basic wizzardry damage. His Staff lets say around 100% rise, doubles that hidden bonus to 40% and more with better staff. EneMG has got more stats than SM with better min damage formula and the same max damage formula for energy. All this combined makes EneMG damage higher of around 80% than EneSM in PVM on the same skill. No matter what items will you get on your SM you will always be HALF of EneMG damage output. I Hope it clears the situation for you now. Admins should be informing that to players when they added these hidden modificators. Regards Ronin Juri and montana94 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana94 Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 25 Reputation: 2 Joined: 04/16/2020 Status: Offline Device: Windows Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 no one talks about the DL? lvl 100 whit 2k dmg of firescream and 1k , 1.5k dmg whit fireburst , i lvled solo whit DL faster than i started as 5main PT at begin XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 71 Reputation: 5 Joined: 04/05/2020 Status: Offline Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, montana94 said: no one talks about the DL? lvl 100 whit 2k dmg of firescream and 1k , 1.5k dmg whit fireburst , i lvled solo whit DL faster than i started as 5main PT at begin XD Later he don't have so much dmg. If you will make pure str then no tankiness. He is good on Hunt, BC, DS, worse on everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawbreaker Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Members Content Count: 31 Reputation: 9 Joined: 12/11/2019 Status: Offline Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 The only problems I have with SM is to outdps sMG,eMG, DL or VRF in boss fights. However I can neutralize every single one sMG unless they have bypass/sd reduction and +13 wep. At this moment SM is really strong 1v1 PVP and it will get even better cause I even do not have wiz enhance I don't think you should complain about this since SM early game isn't designed to be TOP CLASS. However there is one thing I would cry for and this is to remove the visual effect of Mana Shield in CC. With Mana Shield you basically tell everyone to attack you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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