kalsiur Β Β 4 Report post #1 Posted January 31 Hi. Where is that "balance" when every energy class (point click or not even=> they just can AoE) do more dmg even then combo ? π I dont know exactly dps but I think its like x10-20 then perfect combo SM/Sum/eMG. πΒ Change my mind. :] 1 Knightmare reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zer0x1 Β Β 11 Report post #2 Posted January 31 Quote The BK is by far the worst pve character, that's how the game is designed, and it looks good for me that a Summoner to win vs 3 bk in pve, since the Summoner stands no chance if the BKs will ever think to actually go Pvp. I mean 1v1 Β I feel your pain π Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalsiur Β Β 4 Report post #3 Posted February 1 Im not talking about pve... Sum/sm/eMG hit more with point click skills or even AoE then bk with single combo... Β Lets make dmg with stab like blast dmg then ? Β And same range. π LOL. BK can be kited and still if not he will do less dps then energy range class... Thats joke not balance at all.Β Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knightmare Β Β 4 Report post #4 Posted February 1 Wow admin hasnβt called you a crybaby for this yet?? Wytyfy Might as well just restart and make an Sm if you want to PVP π€‘ nothing will change :))Β Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princess PornStar Β Β 7 Report post #5 Posted February 1 they forgot to nerf SMs, all its ok Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalsiur Β Β 4 Report post #6 Posted February 1 Idt its problem with SM. Its problem with staffs %%%% damage. Thats why eMG=>sMG. Β And all magic class got boosted dmg... :] They nerfed combo here (fcked up like always here ofc) and nerfed %%% skill damage. :] So all str class got shitty damage. At least RF can do some point click damage and they are base on %%% damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellldrake Β Β 8 Report post #7 Posted February 1 how about nerfing RF? u can still pretty much kill anyone in 3 hits with a rf, he's been op for the last 3 months and nobody is doing anything about it. Β 1 zer0x1 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn Β Β 17 Report post #8 Posted February 1 1 hour ago, kalsiur said: At least RF can do some point click damage That is synonym on one-shot anyoneΒ ??Β Idk the real situation with BK now, but if u start this topic after CS answer me pls, what Bk coming on That Cs with pure dps build ?? I didn't see any1, Talespin coming with a lot of hp and just tanking, who is second bk ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalsiur Β Β 4 Report post #9 Posted February 1 11 minutes ago, hellldrake said: how about nerfing RF? u can still pretty much kill anyone in 3 hits with a rf, he's been op for the last 3 months and nobody is doing anything about it. Β Are u shitposting ? Topic is about sth else. :] RF wasnt killing me so well not so much OP I guess... Maybe Im wrong.Β Β 5 minutes ago, Spawn said: That is synonym on one-shot anyoneΒ ??Β Idk the real situation with BK now, but if u start this topic after CS answer me pls, what Bk coming on That Cs with pure dps build ?? I didn't see any1, Talespin coming with a lot of hp and just tanking, who is second bk ?? Point click isnt "one-shot" its just about using 1 button to do damage. Its joke when u do combo and deal less damage then some1 with AoE. πΒ U are saying about pure DPS build. There was not even any ESM. And still did more then BK. U say about pure DPS for BK... Like 27k str so I will deal same damage like some1 with 10k ene ? π Well would be nice if I wont die on 1 hit then coz Im not range and I need to use 3 skills with lower speed to make combo. π Balance right? Β Β Β 1 Knightmare reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellldrake Β Β 8 Report post #10 Posted February 1 Rf wasn't killing you cuz he wasn't focusing on you. First of all u need skill to play with bk , Second uΒ probably came with gear +9 no ddi and no proper rings /wings, third point - it's all about your build ,buffs,elf buffs and team work. solo bk can't do anything im afraid:) 1 Knightmare reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn Β Β 17 Report post #11 Posted February 1 31 minutes ago, kalsiur said: Point click isnt "one-shot" its just about using 1 button to do damage. Its joke when u do combo and deal less damage then some1 with AoE. πΒ U are saying about pure DPS build. There was not even any ESM. And still did more then BK. U say about pure DPS for BK... Like 27k str so I will deal same damage like some1 with 10k ene ? π Well would be nice if I wont die on 1 hit then coz Im not range and I need to use 3 skills with lower speed to make combo. π Balance right AgiSM can't do nothing solo, all him kills are work a fell ppls who focus one point, he just do last hit. U dot answer me who from Bk coming with full dps build, and if u write about 27k str on bk I guess what u did know nothing about bk statbuild.Β I didn't remember exactly but Talespin gave me 12-16k dmg with combo, that is with him tank build. Its low u think?? I with full dps build, with 4 anc items with elfbuff make lower dps and kill just supports. U think its good for summoner ?Β Β Β For start to write here gave us some concrete facts of builds, butΒ not your assumptions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalsiur Β Β 4 Report post #12 Posted February 1 7 hours ago, hellldrake said: Rf wasn't killing you cuz he wasn't focusing on you. First of all u need skill to play with bk , Second uΒ probably came with gear +9 no ddi and no proper rings /wings, third point - it's all about your build ,buffs,elf buffs and team work. solo bk can't do anything im afraid:) Well some tried couldnt do shit.Β U are joke I guess then? 13+dd+hp+5% joh dd. π 3rd. its about that CLOSE RANGE character got not enough damage/not enough damage. π Β 6 hours ago, Spawn said: AgiSM can't do nothing solo, all him kills are work a fell ppls who focus one point, he just do last hit. U dot answer me who from Bk coming with full dps build, and if u write about 27k str on bk I guess what u did know nothing about bk statbuild.Β I didn't remember exactly but Talespin gave me 12-16k dmg with combo, that is with him tank build. Its low u think?? I with full dps build, with 4 anc items with elfbuff make lower dps and kill just supports. U think its good for summoner ?Β Β Β For start to write here gave us some concrete facts of builds, butΒ not your assumptions Well that agiSM/hybrydsum/eMG was PVP dps... Dont talk me about BK. :] I know my shit. I will make it simpler. πI got no range and with 2x more dmg stats Im not hitting as hard as some1 with range/aoe/cc. π Balance?Β 1 Knightmare reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn Β Β 17 Report post #13 Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, kalsiur said: Well that agiSM/hybrydsum/eMG was PVP dps... Dont talk me about BK. :] I know my shit. I will make it simpler. πI got no range and with 2x more dmg stats Im not hitting as hard as some1 with range/aoe/cc. π Balance?Β mate, i ask about BK coz i have frame of full last CS, and curious to see what a BK comming on CS with full DPS build and cant do nothing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalsiur Β Β 4 Report post #14 Posted February 1 20 minutes ago, Spawn said: mate, i ask about BK coz i have frame of full last CS, and curious to see what a BK comming on CS with full DPS build and cant do nothing And I had 20k damage stats (str/ene)... On normal sv even agi is damage stats... but still losing in damage vs 10k ene. π Legit ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn Β Β 17 Report post #15 Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, kalsiur said: And I had 20k damage stats (str/ene) 9-12k ene and same str ? :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalsiur Β Β 4 Report post #16 Posted February 1 Just now, Spawn said: 9-12k ene and same str ? Even if so its still more then 9-10k ene. π Dont u think ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn Β Β 17 Report post #17 Posted February 1 15 minutes ago, kalsiur said: Even if so its still more then 9-10k ene. π Dont u think ? buff build without survive, vs 10k ene and full agi/vit build with hight speed and survive. Its big diference. if u put another stats with 9-10k ene u too can kill if u will focus target with someone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalsiur Β Β 4 Report post #18 Posted February 1 Just now, Spawn said: buff build without survive, vs 10k ene and full agi/vit build with hight speed and survive. Its big diference. if u put another stats with 9-10k ene u too can kill if u will focus target with someone 15k vit 8k def set+13+dd+johdd... True no survi. xD Sorry not enough stats to survi and deal damage. Β Maybe give bk 3xSM stats so it will be balanced. πΒ Coz still with 2xmore damage stats he deals more damage. Β Joke joke. Cya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn Β Β 17 Report post #19 Posted February 1 10k ene +15k vit...Β who do you want to kill with these stats ?? that its full support stats. and if u say what u put 10k str...rly mate i cant add somthink more. idk how can you complain when you have just terrible statistics Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalsiur Β Β 4 Report post #20 Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, Spawn said: 10k ene +15k vit...Β who do you want to kill with these stats ?? that its full support stats. and if u say what u put 10k str...rly mate i cant add somthink more. idk how can you complain when you have just terrible statistics But U can kill most ppl with 10k ene reset vit/agi. π Legit. xD Go and think about it. πΒ Its still 10k str+ 10k ene. π More then just 10k ene on SM. xD Yea I think I need 20k str at least to go vs 10k ene SM+ rest vit+agi. π Right ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites