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The final decision will come later on, but until then: NiggerMan, you are required to change your Nickname as we cannot accept derogatory racial nicknames (this will result in a continuous 2 days ban according to the rules). An in-game mail was sent to NiggerMan.

Dont mix trashtalking with racism is a big difference. I dont bother and waste my time for the rest of your message whatewer did you wrote there..but yeah maybe my english is not at your level but I am sure peoples understand me quiet good,and that's enought for me. Cheeers

First of all, you are toxic too: https://imgur.com/XxkXeQt Second, I don't expect you to understand a single word from this, since your english level is at level of a 4th grader, which is quite sad when you're 30+ years old. And third it's kind of sad from your side to come and cry in forums when you've been trashtalking whole day with your guild and pk'ing people for no reason, well only reason is that you got beat by one bk and now you just feel mad and want to pay back to people who haven't even done anything. Honestly you should change the guild name back to RRiders same as previous db, which fits you guys perfectly -> Retard Riders. Nobody likes you in the server, because you think you are some big guys and own everything, but sadly you don't even see how stupid you are mate :), it's so sad that you think that you are somekind of a PRO mu player (which is funny, cuz mu literally takes 0 skill and you can't be a pro in a game which takes no skill) and at the same time you've been playing SM for 2 db's already (as far as I know) and you even have no fucking clue which skills deal more damage. I'll always remember your retard comment "USE ICE STORM IT DEALS MORE DAMAGE THAN BLAST", get fucking real mate you are one of those morons who think they are something and good at something when they actually are fucking trash. You are just scum of the server and everybody who uses at least 1 brain cell will agree with this statement, nobody likes you and nobody has ever liked you. Time to grow out of 14 year old brains brown boy :). Sorry Gion, but I had to do this, sick and tired of this bullshit, you can mute me.

JACKPOT,HorseThief,NiggerMan,Blacko. https://imgur.com/a/lecDP https://imgur.com/a/lecDP5K Racist toxic ppls they haev nothing to do in this community. Cheers.

Well it s none of your business neither to be here and commenting nonsense and making ppls idiot ? have anice day and be more kind. Cheers

yes yes.. provoking all day , pk everyone and you expect to be respectfully ? and why did you POST ? did he say your name ? LOOKS LIKE HUNTING... watch your bussines idiot...maybe he said that to me.. not your fucking bussines!

Very unapropiate... shame on you https://imgur.com/a/2fCyuan Cheers !

Old times mates, sper ca e toata lumea bine , multa bafta si poate ne vom revedea candva la un joc , salutari !!

And we got it xD You failed. End of story.

Moved to the right section

If you say, yes I failed😂 you was the only one who needed atleast 1 point in that day.

"I never traded anyone..." - means u didint do it , we shouldnt? But then you admit u were playing with us? 20 min? Truth is its was bit longer than that + multiple chars - dont lie here. And what a laugh i got from "u letting us get ob5" Im sure u just failed to enter before us - dont make yourself a good guy from this one fail of yours.

https://postimg.cc/WtpKB2sk outdated too

https://postimg.cc/dDDjc89j outdated screenshot, only for posterity

I never traded someone before entering gaion. I just played with you few times staying gaion 20 min, but remember when I let you win ob5(I let you join in last 10 minutes coz you needed atleast 1 point). I'm not the one who started all these messes as you say now. I am the one who will pk, because you asked for it.

Funny Krize talking about trading before gaion and blocking entrance, teleporting to kalima... Should have talked butcher or endo before posting this stuff :S Cuz this is exactly their footprint.

@Gionits obvlious you dont want to change nothing, you already voted and from a long time ago discussion I remember your opinion Totusi incercam sa si pastram jucatorii, nu intentionam sa paraseasca serverul ^^ Nobody came with a better idea, so you should reject this suggestion and close the topic. Cya!

Badabing, you are hypocrites. Im not here to make a weapon for miself. I dont used to post any of you till this guy AlexMG started to " jerk off on my mother graveyard", to "piss on my mother graveyard" and so on. If u want to see more of these let the rules like it is. From now on everybody who will swear me, cursed me, maximum will be reported, but with outdated screenshots, just to see how stupid are some of you. If you want to stay in the mud, just stay. Rules are for everybody, not for myself. Good luck!

Practice what you preach. Stop being a hypocrite. This is obviously being weaponized to target an individual. It's not like you guys were never toxic. And you guys were the racist in the first place

The toxicity from Oldboys/hardcore/rampage players existed way before steppers. Almost all sundays and many bosses majority of last year were not even trash talk/banter but blatant toxicity from Oldboys, even Zigg/Zaoo was very racist with the fried dogs thing. As a bystander all Ive seen is how one guild starts the toxicity and when they get same treatment in return they start to find solutions to remove players from the server. Funny how they themselves cant see it that way. Always an excuse. Things get heated when people get frustrated but when you bait people to go there, that is on you. And all that dawi has said here is true. But the topic in hand, harsher punishment does seem like a good idea but right now the suggestion seems like someone is trying to weaponize it. When you make life miserable for people and then see them lash out just so you can report to get them banned, especially coming from the guild that resorts to that kind of tricks, that is not a suggestion I can get behind.

Dawi, We all went through what you are describing, but do you really think that cursing/bl whatever will help settle things down? If I remember correctly at the beginning of this aggressive behavior, you guys were not the target. We were quite content with jabs/taunts, etc. during and after boss fights. But unfortunately the situation only got worse after some ppl from steppers went above a certain limit, and continued to escalate things. We all have diffrent limits when it comes to what we can tolerate. Personly don't take offense easily (and trust me, neitherdoes tibi), but if someone says something about my dead mother, i will call sick at work and teach the guy some manners. So yes, to avoid all this (witch is getting already out of hand) some action is necessary. Having a rule that takes the gravity of the offense in to account is not a bad ideea in my book. We can talk about this all day long, but at the end it will not solve anything, that is what we all should understand from this "debate". Dear Gion, Kind reminder to u as well:))))))) We are on topic, discussing if this is necessary and if this moves forward maybe even giving you a rule proposal. Best regards, K

Might be somehow offtopic, but kind reminder: I think that the recent reports are related to this one, reports which triggered this suggestion imo.

They are not indirect, they are very direct. I play a chill game and respect everyone across the board. Out of all people I am sure you are one of the people that can confirm that. But your teammates abuse is relentless. I was traded by whoever played Cursed a while back when going gaion rank, I woke up Kalima7 plenty. Last night too- I left /re auto to help newbs on karutan2 because there I can farm in peace, and I woke up K7. List goes on. Boss fights are meant for conflict and trash talk which I fully accept. I helped your guys's guild with quests, items etc. not just one or 2 ppl. And every time I am "rewarded" with the same retarded behavior. The same goes for many other players, just because a handful cannot distinguish between individuals. What I said previously stands. By your logic Adolf Hitler was just a chill painter also... Regards, dawi-

grimdonkey still sleeping?

David, I have to say this...both your posts ar full of indirect insults, aimed at both tibi as well as all off us. I don't think this is very constructive and it will also not lead to a conclusion regarding the topic that is being discussed. As you well know, all 3 guilds have some less then well behaved players, so in my opinion the blame for this situation is mutual. Also, every one seem to forget that this is a game, and for my part I play to relax in my limited time, but that does not mean I like to see my screen full with cursing/trash talk every day. On a another note, since this situation started because of cursing (I personally saw alexmg cursing tibi unprovoked) I think that upping the penalty for cursing, is a first good step for having a better game quality. Maybe not 2 days ban, for the first offense, but something has to be done. P.S. I know tibi, and he s chill guy until someone goes overboard. (Like trading his party before gaion, making gaions in 20 min so others can't enter, kalima tp from auto party, and all manner of other "nice stuff")