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Oldsquad has unfortunately lost credibility ever since the admin and Gion stopped actively managing the server. It took 20 days to address the abusers, and the outcome was little more than a light warning. Naturally, this approach only encourages them to continue exploiting the system.

Fuck me, nothings changed in the 3 years i didn't play, good to see you're still playing the victim you shrek lookin bitch, onewar, fuck your shit ass country too.

How much time we need to play in this broken patch ? I tired for trash PVP where all server put a ton of HP for survive from piece of shit RF and combo BK. What a stupid habit to made a trash balance and avoid any fix of it ? 30 ppls fight and no one cant kill no one, only broken RF or BK can do something and stunned/iced guy can die, but wait, we have SM witch infinity Teleport... Fix need ! Fix Teleport Ally SM RF decrease 50% PvM RF decrease 50-70% Attack Success Rate(PvP) to avoid build witch 3-8k agi and ton of DMG (they will invest 15-20k in agi and decrease one shot ability) BK - Rise def witch 30-40% and decrease combo DMG witch 30-40% if they will have enough def to survive without a ton of HP they invest in dps. explain: BK have 110-120+k HP if any other class put stats for kill him, they die just from ref, but if u put stats from survive ref, u cant kill him (no enough DPS) and here i don't say anything about their combo.

Old Bow has agility bug, no matter how much speed u have, 600 or less, still bug

@Lucifurr For socket items you do /dropsocket command. For Old accessory you need to get code from for eg. Ring of Ice and try different ancient options (same thing like for eg. you do Anubis Ring etc.)

Hello guys. I have a suggestion about the summoner`s damage. I personally think that her damage vs fenrirs is 2 big compared to the other chars. For example in duel , if u play 19 rounds you have chance over 90% to lose fenrir . In arena if one summoner focus you all arena you will need to disconnect before last round. On sundays arena will be very hard to go last 8 round. All this being said I personally think the dmg vs fenrir should be nerfed. All this damage test was done with 20 points in durability- 90% damage decrease . Thanks .

http://www.uploads.co.il/uploads/images/991347385.png they make this guild for racism about jews thanks you gion and what you think about nick hitrel=hitler last db you give him to change nick what about this nick? @Gion@ADMIN

As a gift for thanking you all for the fun time passed together i wanted to share with you all some tips ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To all my beloved BK's on Genesis (this can apply also to Inception) The question of 1 million dollars: How do i build BK? 1st step: choose agility Remember, the more agi you have, the harder it will be for you to combo effectively. BUT if you can manage to do combo with 3 skills only per each combo(i mean dont to 2x times cyclone or 2x twisting ect) you can try up agility. Agility is also important becouse of pvp rate (no reason to go 1k agi for big combo dmg, if you miss 9/10 combo) 2nd step: Choose your Total HP You need to decide (based also on your gear, set exc or set seed) how much total HP (not vitality) you want to have. You can go lower hp if you go high agi (since def helps take less damage). Me personally i would reccoment between 70k- to 100k total HP (100k+ only with seed set!!) 3rd step: You put 9200 energy. 9200 is max swell when you have full ml on it, which is MOST important ml together, after stun!! 4th step: You put vitality untill you reach your previously decided total HP! Rest points you add all to str ofc ! 5th step: BALANCING ENERGY This is what helps a bk have both tankyness and dmg! Now you have 9200 energy. The process is very simple: 1) You remove 600 energy (for example 1 fruit reset ene, or after rr you put 11600 energy) 2) You compensate the lost hp by adding vitality (untill you reach the SAME total hp as before) 3) you add remaining points to str 4) you compare combo damage before and after (if combo dmg is higher, you keep repeating step 1,2,3,4 and so on) . OFC last step is most crucial part. You must compare damage on same target! (aka no changing rings, set buffs ect) Regarding Agility: (Applies to all classes) Pay close attention to cyclone animations! attack speed has big spyke shifts! (for example, if you have 300 speed , invented number, instead of 305, you dont change animation and loose ton of dmg! ) Attack speed is not linear!! it has speed "bumps" aka after X attack speed you change animation! Speed points from items (exc weapon option, pendant, seeds, ESPECIALLY ww ring!!, pumpkins! have more value then it shows! For example, when i bought a pend edr speed i managed to remove around 400 points from agility and had same animation as before!! Basic Combo Guide: You have 3 diffrent basic patterns: 1) Cyclone - Twisting slash - Death stab 2) Cyclone - Twisting slash - Destruction (only when enemy low and needs 1 combo to kill) 3) Cyclone - Death stab - Twisting slash 4) see advanced combo guide There are many small factors that differentiate an average BK to a good BK. Hidden cooldown on combo 1) Cyclone - Twisting Slash - Death Stab is the basic combo most commonly used. What many BK's fail to notice is that it has a hidden cooldown on Death Stab !! Lets say you use the 1,2,3 buttons to combo. If you spam 1,2,3 - 1,2,3 most of the time , even if you press corectly you would not do second combo. There are 2 solutions in order to have more control on combo and avoid this problem. 1) Every time you finish a combo you let go of Right Click on mouse, and press it again after pressin 1 (Cyclone) on your keyboard. Thus starting second combo. 2) If you cant deal with releasing right click every time you combo, you can set as number 4 the CS skill for BK. (Thus doing 1,2,3,4 each combo, this way you will not attack for a spit second since CS skill is disabled on normal server!) Personally i got used to releasing right click every time and pressing it again to start new combo. It eventually will give you more control while you combo, avoiding the "spamming" state. Correcting Combo!! Very important Learning to correct combo and is what gives an edge to a good bk vs a "macro" bk. We all know about hit stuns and ref stuns. Its a pain in the ass especially for BK. The question is, when do i start combo over again and when do i close combo? 1st scenario. You get ref/hit stunned after cyclone - You start over combo. (By the time you do cyclone and deathstab, most of the time you wont close combo in time! especially if you get hit stunned again) 2n scenario: You get ref/hit stunned after twisting slash: You dont start combo over again, you just do Death Stab to close combo and start next one! Starting combo again will just make you loose the time that you made cyclone + twisting. Basic double combo Pattern 3 (cyclone - stab - twist) + pattern 1(cyclone + twist + stab). No need to release right click after 1st combo but need to release it after second. Advanced double/triple/quad... ect combo: The pattern itsefl on paper is simple : Cyclone - Destruction - Twisting + repeat + repeat + Cyclone - Twisting slash - Death Stab + release right click. Execution is less This combo uses the animation cancel mechanic for BK. It starts from around 8000-9000 agility to be relatively easy. (depends also on your items). You will notice when doing 1 cyclone + destruction that you actually do 2x destruction skill (1 without animation and another with the classic animation stuck from destruction) While you are doing cyclone, towards the end, if you have already clicked Destruction, it will activate the first Destruction before locking you into the second. The "trick" is to use only the first one for combo, by holding Destruction just the time you are towards the end of the cyclone animation and switch to twisting slash before casting the one that will lock you in destruction animation. It is a really small windows to avoid getting stuck in destruction! but (as some of you might have sufferred it :D) is very deadly when paired with the second combo or even 2-3 consecutive destruction combo. OF COURSE you can do 2x,3x ice combo before doing death stab combo without releasing right click !! (my personal record, and i remember i recorded it, was 3,7 combo per second at 1k speed ) The animation cancel mechanic doesnt apply only to destruction but also to twisting slash! Not as punishing as destruction one, but with the penalty of having to let go of right click every time you finish combo, as stated above. Still is faster combo if mastered than traditional basic ones. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Usefull to build MG - SM - ELF - SUMM - DL I discovered this method when i made that disgusting and unbalanced Fenrir BK dps build (some of you might remember) 1) decide your desired HP. (Based on your gear, socket set = more hp, DDI set can go lower hp more def since it has more damage decrease) 2) just maximize your dps formula withe the points left (Damage per hit x hits per second = DPS) How to know how many hits per second you are doing at a specific speed point? Easy: 1) open excel 2) write how much mana the skill consumes 3) write your max mana 4) start a screen record software and start attacking untill mana regen kicks in (its 5 seconds) 5) watch your recording and note on excel what was your lowest mana left before recovery kicked in. 6) max mana - lowest mana left = mana consumed 7) mana consumed / how much the skill consumes = how many skills were casted in 5 seconds. Just note how much is your critical hit and multiply. That's your DPS. Thats how you mathematically maximize your DPS based on a "Budget" of points you have left after you decided your HP. If you have similar results for low agi and higher agi, go for the higher agility since it will give you also PVP def and attack rate. You can further write down a complete formula and mathematically maximize it, but its enough to just check the hits per second to choose the best agility since: attack speed has big spyke shifts! (for example, if you have 300 speed , invented number, instead of 305, you dont change animation and loose ton of dmg! ) Attack speed is not linear!! it has speed "bumps" aka after X attack speed you change animation! Speed points from items (exc weapon option, pendant, seeds, ESPECIALLY ww ring!!, pumpkins! have more value then it shows! For example, when i bought a pend edr speed i managed to remove around 400 points from agility and had same hits per second as before!! For DL's Horse skill animation cancel: Since Horse skill has 9% stun with ML, i would like to give this small cherry for DL's also. To avoid getting stuck into the horse animation to push someone away, there is an animation cancel for it. I works consistently, from around 13k agi and more (less with the right fingers :D) 1) You must be attacking with fire scream 2) Horse skill 3) any other skill (if you successfully push someone, best option is to go for stun with Fire Burst. if you stun just kill :D) This way you can keep attacking while pushing or even stunning someone with DL I hope this tips are usefull to ya all. BK's remember, practice makes best, dont rely on dumb ass macro Big Hug, Monkey

Becouse of people like you, people who don't understand the MuOnline game, Admin changes the dmg of the characters all day, from what i've seen, Admin doesn't even go on the server to test it himself, he takes your word for it "RF is to strong, BK is to strong, there is no balance, please make balance" there was balance before, before the update 1 duel betwen BK and summ was 10-9, now is 10-0, now is balance or before? same for the RF, if you know how to do a real test and not go after who wins more events, like CC, do you think that you saw on global, RobyNebunu killed 5 people on CC, that means RF is to strong right?? no bro, it means that man knows how to play, but if you do a real test summ vs rf or summ vs bk, you will see 10-0, you have no ideea what balance means, you only know how to complain, anyway the ideea was to talk about the Old Weapons, there is a problem with them, there is no difference betwen 380 weapons, socket weapons and the NEW OLD Weapons and it consumes a lot of resources to make them and there is no point, either make them stronger or trash them.

I would like to invite other BK players to chime in and post their opinion about the cyclone changes. I don't have much time to play anymore so I'm basing this off of limited testing time. At the moment I'm not sure what was the intended purpose or the vision behind the change. 1. It doesn't work as a solution to making bk a viable killer in teamfight environments. - Before this patch, cyclone would cause both the caster and the target to move, throwing aim off of for allies who are trying to focus down a target. ->Now it places the bk directly on top of the target and depending on unknown factors people hovering their mouse over the pair of characters only get the option to attack one of them (so cycloning an enemy that is iced/stunned results in shielding them with your own body and generally getting eliminated by your own team before you get the chance to move). 2. In bk 1v1 matchups, the random movement increased the skillceiling - players had to aim to land their skills, certain combos had greater knockback further increasing the need for precise aim. Now both players instantly end up inside of each other. It's impossible to tell what the individual characters are doing, who got stunned, who got staggered etc. one can only guess based on in game sounds. On top of that it now looks terrible when 2 bks fight 3. When chasing with the new cyclone, sometimes right click completely stops working against certain opponents (spotted in todays arena, many people were immune to cyclone while others could be attacked just fine, casting other spells or left clicking didn't help) 4. Cyclone bug (walking back to the original position the character was on before casting cyclone on the enemy) is still happening regardless the change.

Haha, another post from Donkey—yet you're still trying to dodge the main topic. Is this screenshot supposed to be proof that I was talking behind your back? Every screen you send i will send 2-3x back - as you wish https://ibb.co/rKZMG9T3 @AlmightySM @Endorphin https://ibb.co/rVvssCs @Lucifurr https://ibb.co/rR85DJ97 @Azir Just so you understand, Doink... you keep diverting the topic, and you get a response. Unless you have actual proof related to the topic I started, consider this a warning—if you want to make it personal and bring up unrelated things, remember that you also trusted me with some delicate info. Keep it on-topic.

We are not responsible for your personal fights my man . And it s not a scam , scam is when you fool someone , you trusted the account to someone , you take full responsability . Scam you can call when helldrake promise us not more fights for sign of lord, than go 11:59 and register 2 k signs .

I totally agree with you. The cost of mix seems high for the percentage of success(token) and the benefit of the damage gain from the physical damage weapons doesn't seem that much. Another thing i would like to add is that huge percent of the elf's on this server play with crossbow(because of it's benefits),can we get an Old Crossbow too?

Here I report that DRACARIS using Arena bug to have more start than others bk. How did this happed? On Arena 21/09/2025 for whatever reason he stay on event map till next day, then he back to normal maps with 200lvls and fulll start of 2grand and 55rr (55775). He will have an extra of 1180 start compare to other BKs when he get 400 lvls agains. You can check the arena top on 21/09/2025 here: https://imgur.com/a/jAG7y6D After getting 400 lvls he start to test his "New start" on the same day (21/09/2025) https://imgur.com/a/SS882Ai. Making duel every day https://imgur.com/a/hTOddSS. Making gamble with extra 1,2k start: https://imgur.com/a/4uVlfGc Exploiting pvp quest : https://imgur.com/a/maToNBJ Exploiting pvp event: https://imgur.com/a/70cYxMl; https://imgur.com/a/ZqJHTJ4 (arena 28/092025) You should feel ashamed when you try to bring "JUSTICE" to the server by using bugs. This is a very serious abuse. A permanent ban should be applied in cases like this.

Developing a long-time server comes with different challenges that I'd rather call perks - one could be that there will be players mastering various events/rewards due to dedicating time/points/items to a specific build/gameplay type. While there is no literal abuse, at least for now, it seems harmless, and besides that, a little interesting

No action is taken without proper announcement. Theus - banned in IT for 14 days on account & IP. Locked.

I feel like you need to see a doctor Emperror. Please do that as soon as possible.

These pictures was month ago, please show us the full screen.

Arena has been activated for years. Why you guys crying about it now? Can't win if there are enemies? That is a only advantage of summoner till now. Summoner's dmg still low at this stage. Please increase it's dmg like 20%.

@Azir If you dont have added any mlvl into fenrir I think its good that it dies fast, but using 30-40 mlvl to get the durability for fenrir and still not be able to last till end is very bad design... I remember once i faced summoner in finals and he was just running and hitting to get my fenrir down and ofc i had to leave (to save fenrir) such "win" should not be avaiable... Just make the fenrir at 20/20 mostly unkillable and we are fine... at least we have where to spend the mpoints... orr just make fenrir invulnerable at AT (where you can not even heal it...) @Gion please check this case 🙏

cant believe that someone is still playing on this dead server O_o

https://imgur.com/a/FOLlCXi he's refering to my mom, not cool

LEGEND @Symptoms

I remember when admins never listened to lidor cause he wasnt top donor xd he begged for admin's help back then and nobody listened coz he reported people who paid more than him

If i say Mao Zedong killed 1 billion chinese what happens? Oh wait.. jews are paying the admins not chinese. My bad.

@Gion after what you write this he make you clown and all server clown he change the nick from hiltrel for Nasis so i dont know what say more if dont take ban i dont have what more say after last db he make nick oven and you tell him change nick and he change now hitrel now nasis?if this no ban so what this mute???realy gion? Guild+nick thanks you gion We are not fucking around, hiding behind fingers. Having all the 'heils' and it just happens that the Hitrel to be in Holocaus guild? Nobody said anything until you start exhibiting 'your talent' like we say around here. We'll start with Hitrel - sir, please change your name urgently or I will block your character. You have a couple of days to do this, I will let this topic open. If there will be more complaints then we'll do something with the guild as well

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Hey, Not sure if this is indeed broken or not but there seems to be something wrong with the Old Jewel mix. 14 tries and I only had 2 successful. Other ppl from guild had it very similar, like 0/4 or 2/12. Is this really 40%? Please check as it seems more like 20% or less atm. Cheers

I just make a small test with Old Sword, Bone Blade and Flameberge. Old Sword= 21900 Bone Blade=21333 Flameberge= 21000 So don't try to make Old Sword anymore, it's not worth it, you will waste all your resources for nothing

rip hermit https://imgur.com/a/ImWOxuG

NEVER SAW ANOTHER SRV WITH MORE MORE DRAMA ! I LOVE IT !

@ADMIN we understand the nerf 4% to the dmg , we understand the nerf of 25% pvm , all good . But why touch the defense and hp ? Bring it back to the era of no one playing rf? It`s no problem i change class, but you ruin a class. Especially these new old weapons , wizz classes get a boost, pshysical classes get almost nothing

@ADMIN if u see this topic dont forget about CS participants/ ally. 30 is too much and even on officilal info u wrote its 25. About RF what can I say... non playable.

I do care, I want the classes to be balanced, not necessarily my class to be the best And it seems like this patch generally gives the edge to wizardry, while leaving phys damage a bit behind.

https://imgur.com/a/XnZLetf

https://imgur.com/rXox4hU My report is against Apokalypse, McDonald said some bad stuff too but Apokalypse here is just mental.

https://imgur.com/a/SPOQBtv With timestamp: https://imgur.com/5w4RLf7

https://imgur.com/a/CSfDYOe With timestamp: https://imgur.com/xdxhL7X Threatening to kill family members and dropping bombs, I dont think that is appropriate behaviour.

https://imgur.com/a/EzAZezD

Usually people quit a server because of their allies, not their enemies. And please cut that victimization thing, some of you behave exactly the same, using the excuse of getting provoked, those are exceptions, right? That's hypocrisy.

Why i cant go offline? Why i have to go online?

i am not lawyer i dont care but admin need fix so many bugs in game its not only this problem

here we go new lawyer here ^^^^ ZzZzZzZzPpPpPpPOoOOoOoNnNnNNnnn

Then you should be punished as same. Your job is not to copy other abusers, but report. You reported and now you wait. That's it. By doing it yourself does not make you free of being an abuser.

I don't want to create another topic, so i will put my ideas here. MG i think will be better to decrease his dmg with 20% and increase his debuff with 20%,(current dps will be same) maybe this will help him to be useful in team fights vs tanks. Queen set on sum, need to repair or change applied lvl (200) on arena and IT. in this events she lose 20-30% defense. its cause lvl, this set start to work only after 383-385 lvl

Try to write email to WebZen and Elon Musk, i think Admin here don't have competence to resolve it

Lewl , that was fun to read , damn destroying this garbage just in a few phrases . He should rename recyble-bin after this conversation . The ''wanna look smart guy'' was exposed, he`s just a nerd 🤢