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15 hours ago, Roby said:So everyone went to forum , made a nice ''description'' about how DL is OP and bla bla bla , so now what you think about RF ? That he s unkillable on 1v 1 , very hard to kill even on 2v1 . Try DL damage vs a char with a set with DDI , no so much there fellowz , so stop the drama , chars are well enough balanced , except VRF def . Have a nice evening
I guess everyone is complaining about DL class, but not the DL owners themselves. Let me put it this way so you can understand, most of you on this server, changed race into DL, and why is that? Because you knew the class is way beyond broken, why? Let's see why:
[PVM view] Just a few small examples:
-As some people said above, about VRF solo stealing bc statue from AE's, I saw a lot of solo DL's stealing bc statues from solo AE's as well, using Chaotic. And as for a small example here, I tested my friend's pure AE with full Aruan Set, decent Albatros Bow Lk+2% +11, w2 +9, 13rr against Nephilim's DL. The thing was, indeed Nephilim is 14rr, not a big difference for 1 rr, but still, I managed to get first to 2 +5 goldens in Reliks, Nephilim came after 10 seconds or so. You know what was the result? He took both goldens, even tho I was first there, even tho I managed to have dmg advantage before him, he purely melted their healths with Chaotic like my elf was nothing.
-Illusion Temple event, the thing is, DL is invincible since now, he can rebuild before the event starts. He just goes full tank and the other 5 people can't kill him, we can just wait till he delivers the Star, again and again, not to mention his mobility while using Horse. So the DL's always be the first to reach the Star and take it. So who gets the DL in their team, it's 100% win. And as a small reference about IT(The Illusion Temple system that's extremely unbalanced and it's about Master Level. When the event starts, it gives you 131,141,151lvl and so on, well, the thing is, the ones who have Master LVL, will automatically be detected as more lvl than the others that don't have ML. I had several times people with ML in IT 2-3-4, that we couldn't kill at all, just because they had this ML lvl difference. So tell me why people with ML are redirected to IT 1-2-3 where the newbies are trying to play and they will face top players with insane gears and master level that they will just can't be able to kill. This is extremely unbalanced and it ruins the event, completely.
-At this point, when almost nobody has fenrir, DL can just leave a dust trail behind everyone else that tries to hunt goldens, because of his Horse he can reach the goldens before any other class, he can cover the maps before any other class.
-I saw several times DL's that can steal Cursed, Kundun, Bloody Queen, goldens, from top AE's like HellDrake, Senpai, Dajbuzi. The reason is, in PVP invasions or the boss events, DL's can just resist till the end, spamming Chaotic on the boss while AE's can instantly die and lose the opportunity for more dmg on the boss. On the other side, on NON-PVP, again, DL's have more DPS on chaotic, than AE's on MultiShot with perfect positioning. BETLEY as a DL can confirm you all that he easily stole, several times, bosses from AE's, in PVP and NON-PVP.
-And a lot of other things that you all noticed but you don't want to mention them because most of you now, changed into DL race so you can abuse it's overwhelming power over other classes. I can't wait for DL nerf so you can all change your races back, and be as bad as you were in the early stage. You were an MG at first eRoby, now you changed to DL, and we both know why. And I agree with you about VRF, he is extremely strong as well and easy to play, but has extremely low mobility and some of his spells are not hitting at all on moving targets, you need to have nerves of steel to play VRF against other classes.
[PVP view] Just a few small examples:
-Chaotic range and dps, it's insane. It's impossible for other classes to kite that since it has instant dmg on the target even if the target it's moving, not to mention the insane dps and dmg, even tho the DL is Hybryd DL and not pure SDL. It can just melt your health from a range that you can't even reach with other classes. And I will give you examples for each class, except SUMM, EMG and ARF, cause I haven't tested it my self:
[DL]vs[BK]: Except CC and IT, anywhere else BK has no chance against DL, especially because of it's horse power. DL can infinitely kite BK and spam chaotic from insane range, and why except CC and IT? Because outside this 2 events, DL can instant use Horse Power if the BK manages to reach his position. So between this classes, at this point, it's a "catch me if you can" game. While BK can't even get close to hit a combo, DL can just kite, run and spam Chaotic till BK dies. Not to mention the Destruction skill for BK, is it even working? I tried several times, can't hit a single slow on the target, either has way too low hit rate, either not working at all.
[DL]vs[SMG]: The same story as DL vs BK. The small difference is that SMG can use ice to slow DL down, but again, pointless, cause if SMG reaches DL position, he can easily use Horse Skill or antidotes. And let's not talk about a DL with 2 +4 Ring of Ice ^^
[DL]vs[AE]: While AE, as people mentioned above, has to sacrifice some points from her pure AGI build for Ice Arrow and lot of VIT to have decent health, not to insta die from 1 single hit, DL doesn't even have to balance a build, it works either way, you can't even tell the difference between a Hybryd DL and SDL, they both have insane survivability, insane mobility, insane health, insane dmg, insane def, you name it. AE has to get extremely close to DL to even try to use Ice Arrow on him. DL against AE, doesn't even have to move anyway so consider him permanently Iced but he can still kill you from insane range, while you as AE, can't get close to him to hit your full DMG, so what's the point? I know AE it's not supposed to be that good in PVP, but why you should limit the classes only for a small part of the game? So AE from now on it's gonna be useless in PVM and PVP as well? So everyone gonna just change race from now on? And we will see only elfs for Ice Arrow at CS and some bosses? Feels extremely wrong to me. There are people who wants to enjoy their favorite classes till the end of the game, not only for a small number of resets, then to just feel forced to change the class into something else that has potential in the game so they can compete with others. That's not fair to be honest, DL was a top class since the db started, could easily compete against AE with Chaotic. So why a class should permanently be top class in early, mid and maybe in late as well? But on the other hand, some classes will just be useless.
[DL]vs[SM]: As a SM my self, I can tell that at this point, SM it's the most balanced class in the game, the scaling it's exactly as the Staff said it will be. The SM is getting stronger and stronger as it should, in a balanced way, but again, we have a problem against DL. The key point of SM in PVP it will always be the positioning and your kiting skills so against other classes, SM can kite, position and fight back as it should be. But, against a DL, positioning and kiting with teleport, it's pointless. He can just use F10 outzoom to it's maximum and spam chaotic from a range that none of your spells can reach. SM was supposed to be a range class, right? Yet none of it's spells can reach a DL position while he can spam Chaotic from that position, as a SM not even when you try to use Ice Storm to the nearest position of that DL, sometimes it won't reach at all, but DL's chaotic will reach you. And if you will try to get in his range to spam Blast, you will instantly die.
[DL]vs[VRF]: At this point, VRF it's the only class that can get close to fight back a DL but even like that if only the DL stays still and it's not trying to kite. Imagine both 14rr classes(RF and DL). The ammount of health VRF has, it's huge, right? Arround 40k even more with full +hp set, rings. Well, imagine all that HP just going down like ice melting, from a range that VRF can't reach if the DL is kiting. Even tho the DL won't kite, VRF will have no chance against him.
[DL]vs[SUMM]: I haven't tested this one my self, feel free to speak if anyone did. But in my opinion, since SUMM is such a squishy class, we know the story
[DL]vs[EMG]: Not tested, but as SUMM class is, this EMG build it's squishy and as well, so the same story I guess.
[DL]vs[ARF]: Not tested, and since ARF it's trash in PVP, not even worth to mention.
[DL]vs[DL]: Not tested, but I am actually curious about a fight between SDL and Hybryd DL, i wanna see who wins.
I could go on with several examples, but you all know that DL is extremely broken at the moment, even tho some of you won't admit it, because you are defending your own class, but still. Even tho ADMIN said that DL it's still extremely strong, compared to other classes. Somehow, some of you are here telling us the opposite. At this point, even the worst DL player on the server, can beat most of other good players, just because the class it's broken and doesn't require too much skill, if not, doesn't require skill at all, since all you have to do it's to stay stil and spam Chaotic.
I hope it isn't too much to read, you can call me Reporter ^^. But I tried to put some things together since everyone is leaving their opinions here, there it is mine. -
@Zutto It's no fantasy what I said above and I've never said it's you, did I? Or maybe you are an asian yourself, jokes on you, Marlon ^^
@Reporter Of course there are hackers on this server, but the ones that are not banned yet, they will never be, because they are smart enough not to show off, so hats off to them, I appreciate them for that. And it's not about "player's pride", it's something else. So let me give you an example, I remember back on Phoenix edition, I actually pmed Gion about one player that I suspected of being a hacker, I just asked Gion to keep an eye on that player since I had no proof or video that I could post on forum so I said why not, let's talk to one of the admins, maybe they will keep an eye on him and they will catch him using the hack. You know which was Gion's answer? He answered to me: "That player is clean, he just found the perfect build, he is no hacker". I mean, yo..you didn't even bothered to check him, and you answer me that he is clean. My man, there is no such thing as perfect build when you are 1 against 4-5 people, I get it, you can balance your build in order to win any 1vs1 battles, but it's impossible to just kill so many people alone, while they are all attacking you and only you. You either go tanky build for that and yea, you can resist, but only resist, but you won't be able to kill none of them, or you go dmg build and you can make them drop like flies, but that, will make you a fly too, against so many people. So that's why I hate it when I get this non-sense answer "He found the perfect build".
Anyway, that's a different type of topic, let's all appreciate Reporter's interview and that's all.
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OFFTOPIC: Most people here, acting like in 2020 hacks are inexistent, when you can easily pay some asian to create any kind of hack for you, for any type of game. Give him some 50$/month and he will update your hack everytime the server security has an update as well, easy as that. The server can have the most advanced security in the world, if someone really wants to play with hack on your server, he will. And let's not act like there are no hackers on this server either, there are, plenty of them, cause when a BK with 5rr, beats 4 people with 7rr in CC, there is surely something suspicious there, and don't give me the bulls**t, "He found the perfect build", there is no such thing vs players with 2resets ahead you and even better gears. Not gonna give the name of that BK cause I am not that type of person, everyone is free to do anything they please, hacker or not, not my business, but some of you might have an ideea who I am talking about. So stop with this ideea, there are no hackers on this server, multihit hack at its finest for lots of players here
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ONTOPIC: Great interview @Reporter, I did really enjoyed it along with my morning coffee. -
3 minutes ago, ADMIN said:
I stopped reading here, clearly you're just another keyboard warrior.
LoL (the unmentioned & untouched by me, kid's game):
Keyboard warrior? C'mon, you can do better than that, and as an ADMIN if you start using this 1984 jokes because you don't agree with someone, well, that says enough about you ^^. You clearly have no ideea what "disciplinary systems" means don't you? Let me tell you so you know, next time when you copy-paste some words from other sources. Disciplinary system means that the power of executing discipline must be in the hands of some trained persons so as to ensure that they make proper use of "Power"(in this case, power means the right to punish someone for their behaviour if they are reported) on the offender only, but not on innocents. That is the reason why there are "Supervisor" that needs to be trained on when and how discipline should be used. You know who are those "trained" people? The exact people that personally check your reports before they punish someone. Of course, there is an auto system as well, that's why I said 99.9%, because for now, the auto system can't really detect if the reports are fake since there are 9 fake reports against one innocent player, that means the system will automatically detect it as true report, since there is a 90% report rate against that player and the player could be innocent, so he will be banned by the system for doing nothing wrong? No, that's why they call it a "disciplinary system", so they have to check it first.
P.S: I've never said I am playing the game, so don't flat yourself so much when you say it's a kid's game by calling me a Keyboard Warrior.
No point arguing here, that's all I had to say. -
10 hours ago, ADMIN said:
I don't see any point to continue arguing on this subject, system can be used in any way available, people should educate themselves and that's it. As I said, maybe extra warns for those that warn as well, to be a risk.
Anyway, there are 2 warns in total given in the last 3 days (6x ITs), one of them being an auto-warn for disconnect during IT, I'm not quite sure what's the problem and where is this abuse we're talking about.
Let me tell you where the abuse is. If you check this TOPIC RIGHT HERE you will find a player named Gruba that has been reported by my guild mate, dNice, in game and on forum as well. The problem was, I was in Mamelcia's team and dNice was in Gruba's team, so Gruba trolled dNice's team and helped Mamelcia's team to win(the team I was in). I noticed that as well, since Gruba was fighthing mobs instead helping his team, standing afk in base as you can see in the prints attached in that Report Topic against Gruba. We automatically won that game since it was 5vs4, dNice warned Gruba and I tried as well, didn't worked, I don't know why, yet, here it comes the "abuse reason" we are talking about. Mamelcia and Gruba, both warned dNice, just because he warned Gruba. So tell me again, don't you see any abuse point here? Cause I do, imagine if there were more guildmates from Mamelcia, and Gruba's guild, what would've happened then? All of them could warn dNice and ban him from IT, for what reason? For no reason. So why would a player who tried to win and help his team, would get banned from IT, just because the system is wrong, and the one who trolled will just be abble to play in IT again and split the prize with the enemy team that he helped to win. Can you see the problem now?
There must be some rules about this IT thing, cause it's a total chaos with this event and not everyone is abble to constantly stay with their video camera on, to film every IT event. Dnice came on forum and reported Gruba, because the /warn system is useless, yet, Gion came with a lazy answer and closed the topic. I can literally see in the prints, Gruba sitting in base and just typing in chat bad words, not helping his team. @Gion next time when you check a report topic on forum, asure you are not in bed on your phone, ready to sleep with your eyes almost closed, but on laptop or pc so you can see the prints as they are, cause I can perfectly see everything in the prints, how can't you? Even tho you couldn't see much about trolling, you could see the bad language he constantly used, and you could warn that player for the language he used, but wait, you need 100 other same topics, with more words, so you can index a bit more in google, instead solve the problem in that topic.
Anyway @ADMIN as @Spawn said, don't compare a game with 100k+ online, with an event with 10 players that only takes place 2 times per day. Since you are giving examples about other game companies, here it is one, take Riot Games for example, the game League of Legends, yea? No need to mention how many players are playing that game at the same time, 5vs5 moba game mode. You know what they do? 99.9%, they manually checking the reports, they watch the replays and decide if there is a good reason to punish the player that was reported, for language, troll, hack, you name it, of course it can last weeks till that player is checked and punished, due to way too many reports, but still, they do it. Because it's the exact same problem as it is here, in your IT event, people just use /warn for no reason, just because they don't like that player, or maybe because they want him banned from IT due to his good plays, or many other reasons that doesn't even makes sense to me, as it doesn't this one here "You can both guild be banned at IT by warning each other for nothing, or you can both stop it and use your ONLY available warns to ban actual real troll". Okey, so let's all warn each other like monkeys, cause that's what we are and let's ban everyone in IT untill nobody would be able to play it anymore(Just an example, not possible, but an example), till the punishment will expire. The difference between here and League of Legends, is that they actually check the reports before punishing that player, unlike here, that the player could get banned from IT even tho he is innocent. So either change the system, either go back to the old fashioned way, reports on forum with proof(prints, videos, etc). I know it's hard what you acomplished here, especially with this old Season 6 files, almost impossible so hats off to you, but some things are unbalanced here, I will consider making a topic about it, later on, depends on how much I care about it, who knows. -
18 hours ago, ADMIN said:
Your feedback isn't related to EARLY-GAME, this are just normal suggestions/opinions related to game overall.
I'll still reward you for your time though, so leave your char name here or in PM.
I actually don't need any reward, thank you anyway. I would be happy if you would take my suggestions in consideration, the reason I suggested those things is because they really matter, I think it would be a good thing for the server.
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I'll try to say some things about the server as well, I'll write them bellow, only the things that I don't like or I find them inappropriate, so that means anything else I don't say, it means it's balanced or good enough:
-When DL is using Summon spell, the SoulMaster gets summoned as well, even if he is attacking. It's actually annoying, because everytime the DL in my party is trying to summon someone dead or someone that can't walk to the spot, the SM in party gets summoned and his Helper stops, so he won't attack anymore untill the Helper is activated manually again.
-The recent update in Illusion of Kundum in lore ring, now he is not affected by the poison, as an example, last night, a lot of players came to kill the kundum, we stayed a lot and couldn't even take 1% of his HP, so everyone left and the Kundum dissapeared. The poison on this boss was balanced, it was hard to hit the poison on him, that boss is goin to be useless now untill players will reach big MasterLevel or resets. It's only one time per day and drops 1 acc item, so it's not a big deal, it's actually a good thing for players since it's with Lucky Slayer and not most damage, so everyone can kill it, not only the person who used poison on it. So I suggest at least, make the poison chance lower on it, but at least make it.
-Also, I know it's a PVP server, but some kids without personal life are really abusive about this, that's what they live for on this server, for hunting and PK-ing people for no reason, with secondary accounts, there should be a balance on this, I mean, the time for cleaning PK is very short, I can go kill an entire map, clean all the spots, and go to clean my full Phono Stage in only 30 minutes, that makes Death Invasion an useless event on this server. So my advice is, Death Invasion to be the only way to clear your PK, any stage of PK, that would make more sense for the event as well, and it will stop the abusive PK on the server. The server will be more balanced between PVP system and Leveling system.
-About Golden Invasion. I find the Budge Dragon's invasion system, unbalanced. I think it will be better to make only the Budge Dragon with lucky slayer, and not most damage, because I see a lot of small new players that are trying to hunt the Budge's for pendants and rings and they have no chance, even if they find the budge, because a bigger level player will come and take the Budge becase he deals more damage to it. So I suggest to make the Budge Dragons to be killed by anyone who does the last hit, this thing will encourage new players to hunt them, since they have no chance to make pendants and rings and people are selling them on market with prices that new players can't afford. And since there are only 4 Budges and 500 players, I think this will offer everyone a chance to collect rings, not only to the characters special made for farming, like ARF, AE, let's make it fair for everyone, since we are a lot of players on this server.
That's all for now, if I remember anything else untill Friday, I'll add it here. Hope the Staff will read everything I said and take it in consideration.
Have a nice day, all of you. -
First of all, I am not offended by bad language coming from other players, cause it's just a game and I understand that some of them are kids, but, this kid is really sad and I wanna give him a break, so he can leave at least 10-15 minutes from PC and go spend time with his family or friends, or at least, to take one breath of fresh air, I can see that he needs some, since he is 24/24 online on this game, with 5-6 accounts, making fun of people, creating anti-game on events and using bad language on post and pm to other players.
About the topic, I went to Budge Dragon when the invasion came, I think it was NON-PVP, i am not sure about that, I can't remember well, so I won't report him about PK as well, so I found the Budge, I was ready to kill him and and I was looking on my phone and then he came, killed me and took the Budge. I said, ok it happens, then he pm me and started to use bad language so I answered him, and you can see what happened in the prints bellow. This isn't the first time, it happens actually everytime when we meet on the game, without any reason, he PK me and then PM me or shout on post the same bullshit (go crying, dance, s***k my d***k, bi**h) and things like this. I said to my self "don't bother it's just a kid, don't give him attention", but this is actually too much. I guess he is just a sad kid without social life and this game makes him feels like he has one, i don't judge, but he needs a lesson. I know it's not a good reason to ban him, but this is just one of many times he did this and I actually decided to report him. By the way, it's not only the bad language about him, his "fun" is to make anti-game at Kundum in lorencia ring, he is just staying there beside kundum, without attacking him, and he is killing all of us who are trying to go in the ring to attack Kundum, and he does this the entire time untill the Kundum is gone, so nobody can kill him, he is doing this every evening, we the low or the new players, he is not letting them to make items. He had the ocasion to make items, now when he has good items and big level, he is stoping new players and low players to make items. So admins, how do you call this? I call it ANTI-GAME, you should make something with this event, I allready talked to Gion about this, he told me he is gonna speak with the TEAM, I don't know if he did yet, but this is a good chance to inform you about this thing.
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Edit: I can see that this kid has a lot of reports on multiple characters, for language, for ANTI-GAME, for a lot of reasons, why is he still on this server? We don't need this type of players in this community, a lot of new players and players are leaving the game because of toxic players like him. I recommend you guys to do something about this "problem", it's for your interest, not mine, he is ruining your work.
Class Ballance.
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First of all, I have access to many accounts Roby, from 5rr to 14rr so I tested a lot, on the official server and test server as well. Don't get me wrong, I didn't said to remove horse, I like DL class myself as well, but this is actually ridiculous how powerful the class is. The horse thing as I said, was just a small example of DL's advantages, and I can go on if you want more, I didn't said that's the main problem, it was just a small example that can always have an impact in the game, like many others. DL's mobility was always a thing for the class, but since it has so much DPS on that chaotic, being so tanky, etc, besides that, he has insane mobility as well, that was my point. I am not here to fight over things like this, unless you give me arguments, your words are just nonsense.
And second of all, I don't know why're you talking about my stats and gears, Enis+Anubis +0, that's my farming/leveling gears. But to make you happy, I'll give you a fair example. I tested my SM against HooligaN's DL, same rr, same lvl. Even tho I have better gears than him, and I am talking about my PVP set(3/5 Pad Items +15 LK+dd+ref+hp+mana/Lk+ref+hp+mana+zen/Lk+ref+hp+mana+zen +2 Legendary items Lk+dd+ref/LK+dd+hp +12) and another try with full Legendary set +12 LK+dd+ref/Lk+dd+hp/Lk+dd+dsr. And about my stats, no, I have 7k hp with my PVP set on(3k vit +the hp from set). Both results are, not matter how much I am kiting, it's impossible to kill him, even tho I always manage to get his SD to 0, first, when I am trying to stay still for a second to hit my full dmg, my health just melts and I just can't kill him.
About VRF, if you read again, I just said that VRF is the only class that can get close to beat DL. At this point, DL can still beat VRF, because VRF it's still scaling and it will scale even more, so soon, VRF gonna be unkillable. But let me remind you that VRF has very low mobility, very low hit range and so on, and if you want, you can just infinitely kite him, and you won't be able to kill him, but neither will he, unlike DL that can kill any other class from a range that they can't reach, even tho they are kiting or running.
So why a single class should have so many advantages and a full kit in PVP and PVM as well, while others have to carefully build either for PVP or PVM, and still getting their ass kicked, by one class.
Give me solid arguments next time, don't speak things that you don't know about. Most of you on this server changed your class, into DL and RF, cause you saw this two classes are just overwhelming the others, in PVP and PVM as well. So why you even bother to contradict me, when you know the truth yourself? DL it's extremely broken right now, the players knows it, the STAFF knows it, so we are all waiting for it's nerf next patch, to finally see this class, at the same "level" with the others.