Chukundah

i'm curious too i mean for MeOne  Gion got enought time to add some Hour's on his ban but for this lad had no time ?
@Gion be fair and make  rulz same for every1 we spend lot of money on this serv and we appriciate your work 
Respect your player's as they respect u

But add hours to MeOne is instant .

Hello,
As initially communicated, starting from this autumn OldSquad will have a big restructure.
Phoenix will no longer exist on OldSquad, at the end of the current edition, its section and hall of fame will be the only things left from it. The core from Phoenix will be moved to our new, separate S17 project that we have started preparing its base ground.
  Genesis - this will be our new, permanent main server. A 150~500x resets server focused mostly on end-game content, a server that will remain online without any editions or wipes for as long as OldSquad will remain online. Easy early-mid game, prolonged end-game, maybe grand resets and other different end-game activities that will be decided later on.
  Inception - major changes to how Inception will be operated. It will no longer be a standalone, long-term server. Since most of you quit before or after reaching end-game, Inception will no longer have an end-game. There will be no more wormhole, sockets, wings level 4 or quest system + extra resets. Inception will have only 25 resets under the same stage-system as before (and all the content up to 25 resets).  Inception will now run under "Sprints". There will be 2 Sprints per year, each Sprint will last 4 months (120 days). At the end of the 4 months, characters will be moved to Genesis. Players can choose to either continue the end-game on Genesis (if they want to experiment sockets, w4, quest system, more pvp, etc.) or join the next Sprint from 0 on Inception.  There will be the option of either moving 50% of remaining credits to Genesis or 10% of remaining credits to the new Sprint, based on where players do choose to continue. We'll also have a new HoF made for Inception Sprints where people with different, set goals will be shown (first CS winners, all CS winners, first w2 mixed, first w3 mixed, first +15 item, etc). The development of S6 will be cut moving forward. We'll continue to offer support and fixes (where needed), but our focus will no longer be on S6. There may be some improvements/quality of life from time to time, but that's it.

Inception will be exactly as it was last edition, only moving the fixes / quality of life we did before and during Phoenix. Since we're no longer interested in its development, if there will be any good suggestions from players (especially before Inception Sprints release, but also during them) that are highly appreciated by more than few players, and that are related strictly to gameplay aspects (not credits/donations/premium functions) we MAY implement them, no questions/arguments asked from our side.
Schedule for 2022-2023:
09 September 2022 - Inception Sprint #1 release - ends on 07 January 2023. 11 November 2022 - Genesis release. 07 January 2023 - Transfers start from Inception's Sprint #1 to Genesis. 13 January 2023 - End of the transfers. 27 January 2023 - Inception Sprint #2 release - ends on 28 May 2023. 28 May 2023 - Transfers start from Inception's Sprint #2 to Genesis. 04 June 2023 - End of the transfers. 04 June 2023 - September 2023 pause. September 2023 - Inception Sprint #3. OldSquad will remain active on this formula for as long as there will be players left interested in this project and the project will remain feasible business-wise. It may be the last year or it may continue for more years, all based on your interest.

As i would imagine, i see many people posting here about this and that and so on, if something will change... if something will be different.... if this will be like this, if this will be like that... if something will be newer.... and so on... but in the end, i think the real problem is sometimes about how we deal with our own frustrations and the way to make others understand what we are experiencing, without offending  but than of course, this is an online game.. and like any other game, if its not stirring your emotions, be them anger, sadness, excitement or any other, its not worth playing. Sometimes without the "toxicity" you are unable to give your best.
 

all feedbacks are personal wtf you talkin about.. the problem is adm being arrogant as always. independent on the manner of the feedback text, they all contain a msg. you make a good job with sv, but need to humble yourself a bit
ring of resistance = worst idea ever had
add luck on site = heavy pay2win (terrible for ingame economy)
chaos machine on site = even more pay2win (also terrible for ingame economy)

less then 2months this season.. you better start reading the feebacks. you gon need them

the jewel economy atm is pretty horrible , it was really good in early and mid game to keep the teamfights on ww's early cc's etc where the jewels would be shared , but now that late game is coming is becoming realy frustating to get 1 jwl , 48h on spot 0 jewels , basicly being forced to skip "real life" to stay active to do events to get jewels / items to sell to have for w3 mix or our +++ on sets or just simple donate 10€ to buy bless that costs 120 credits .. it was indeed very good as i mentioned , in early-mid game , but for now imo there should be a increasing drop rate of bless/soul ( mostly bless) in higher maps such as kar2 vulcanos swamp raklion too keep up the w3 mixes and fails on +13 whit tocas whitout having too be forced being active all day for events to even get 2-4 jwls because not every party wins BC or every players win a cc and not every rabbit / orc drop jwl or even have the time to be on for them


The zen drop / amount also is not matching the costs for making fruits and every mixes ds bc w3 ++ set along whit buying potions after all this as well

the jewel economy atm is pretty horrible , it was really good in early and mid game to keep the teamfights on ww's early cc's etc where the jewels would be shared , but now that late game is coming is becoming realy frustating to get 1 jwl , 48h on spot 0 jewels , basicly being forced to skip "real life" to stay active to do events to get jewels / items to sell to have for w3 mix or our +++ on sets or just simple donate 10€ to buy bless that costs 120 credits .. it was indeed very good as i mentioned , in early-mid game , but for now imo there should be a increasing drop rate of bless/soul ( mostly bless) in higher maps such as kar2 vulcanos swamp raklion too keep up the w3 mixes and fails on +13 whit tocas whitout having too be forced being active all day for events to even get 2-4 jwls because not every party wins BC or every players win a cc and not every rabbit / orc drop jwl or even have the time to be on for them


The zen drop / amount also is not matching the costs for making fruits and every mixes ds bc w3 ++ set along whit buying potions after all this as well

If u are going to fight for k4-k5 boxes with the rest of server and reward what u get from the Box is leather helm+mana , a bit your feeling is ... what the fuck , better way is going to focus at lower box casue it's easier to kill and u have a chance to kill it faster than some1 else comes ,and the reward is same ,but u are lossing around 90% less time than kill those boxes
In my opinion the jewel drop is too low , like on beggining was okey cause ppl have no item to put up ,but atm if bless have prize around 120credits each ,and before on another editions for 120crd u could buy sometimes even 6-7jewels , thats big diffrence to make set in the machine ,also to create wings lvl 2 / level 3.
The ballanced class also in my opinion is not okey , SM like always too op(too tanky bitch , on it its impossible to kill this champ even in 2-3 ppl when some1 gonna make agi SM  , Elf suck low deff dying like dragon for lorencia , In my opinion SM need nerf to deffens too hard to kill , Elf need deffens buff
Interference to zen untill edition is the joke if u are doing some staff like the putting the economy in server , what on the mind u had to chance something like that imo zen shouldnt be taken when u are putting live server , those changing should be before the edition not untill it , cause ppl getting angry when when on one day they can drop 4kk zen in a day , but on 2nd one they even cant reapir their equipment and make the repots , thats no okey , also u need zen to make boxes prize also is high but drop the zen is a joke now.
 

Character name that is submitting it (for the potential reward):  Miukutin Suggestion type (server/website/forum):  server Suggestion content (make sure to include enough details so your suggestion is clear enough): Visual dragons in atlans How the suggestion can bring value: Making pvp more fun for everyone. (Optional) How would you personally implement your suggestion (your vision): I would remove dragons totally.

Hey, i find it really annoying that we cant see pretty much anything while there is flying dragons in golden invasion at the atlans, i pmed Gion about that and asked if its possible to reduce amount of those dragons, he said its only possible to totally remove those, what would be even better solution in my opinion, imho those flying dragons couldve removed for any pvp invasion, thought i havent found them problem elsewhere.
Thanks for reading and nice day for everyone!

@ADMIN Guild System: Maximum 20 players in a guild for all classes.

if server goes well whit the 20 max and there is 3 guilds strong and consistent on cs , can it be considered to stay like this and the 20+5 ally for cs as well?

and change it on the point were only 2 are highly competing 

every reset u get 3 points until lvl 220 and then 4

As in the title, i would like to suggest removing happy hour from blood castles or make XP higher in all blood castles, to match the one in happy hour.
Why?
- it creates drama between party members
- it 'forces' you to do bc during HH to stay in top
- it 'forces' all 5 members to be online at those hours, otherwise using teamviewer to add a party member inside doesn't work, because you don't have time to take ur char and the oter one inside
- it advantages ppl with better PC, because they have better FPS and can click faster to get inside
 

The change is already up for the incoming Phoenix. Bonus won't intersect with neither BC or DS, weekly or in weekend.

U have an answer for everything .. even tho the ones who repliying ( old players and experiencied ) is giving you the best feedback and most likely the best small changes .
Go try to be a GM in this player data base and i want to see you coordinate 30-40players in this new system
I dont know what else i can say about this subject , dont get me wrong but u make such good changes but in same time some of them small changes are truly not the best and all of them has been pointed out , as i said above it does not need to be played to know what to expect of such small.changes that have bigger impact than the whole reworked system , its not about the statues ( besides of the immunty buff and stuns ) its about the guild numbers, the lack of gameplay wise of players, the ones that dont even read and try, and.forcing again 2 guilds and 1 dominate as always.

I'm not quite sure what you didn't understand, I specified yesterday that I agree that 40 players would be too frustrating / hard to coordonate, and that I didn't thought about this aspect.
Later Edit: And also, if I didn't wrote yet about the changes doesn't mean I don't listen to the arguments and feedback, this are the planned changes before the actual release and before seeing the event live:
 
 

I would like to play cs v2 system in 15 players / guild or ally. Thats means we will make more guilds to participate and hopefully will be more fun. With this number even best guild will have problems trying to win the crown against 3 other alliances. Playing v3 system in 40 ppl will be a mess or will be a easy job for the guild that recruit the best players. We need to teach a gm to stay on the specific coordonates to gain 1 more point/sec and you want to play a so difficult cs?!😅  I agree with many things writed above me, but we see you're implicated and we like that. 

So many changes, so much difficult, people who play this game play because it is easy and many are not capable of playing something more complicated. If we want complicated game, we would play another game.
I would agree with the changes, with the diversity, but what is the point? for what are we fighting this CS? the reward for CS owners is not worth the time and effort.
GM boxes, and what.. dont even need to win and you still can get more than half, no expenses added.
380 weapons, and what.. now u got world bosses,  drop rate for weapon is higher than on gm boxes.
for what to even struggle? to coordinate, to make strategies.. people who play this game want to 1vs1 duel  and to win, or will blame the settings and some times for good reasons (in my view cant understand some chars to be op for so long just because stage, its killing the game, example rf 1 hitting any char for like 1.5 months... i guess we need to focus on other aspects of the game)
Most cant coordinate even in current settings, cant read properly many things.. most just wanna wait end of db and have what to brag next db that they are the best or w/e.
on to the post,  below should not exist in my point of view.
If your alliance holds both statues then the following buff will be up for your alliance until you lose at least 1 Statue: GM, Assistant & Battle Masters gain damage immunity, preventing them from being damaged, while the buff is active

u took all the words i had for a long time in my mind about making such changes , wanted to say this for some time but ye .. 

but beside this , changes are always good but at a certain point , and considering the previous state , as has muerte said about struggle coordinations strategies reading etc , 80% of the players do not play such events correctly and will never do it and this has been proved and seen many many X times and i witnessed it all over and over , even now in inception after all the DB's people just dont know how to play an event no matter how many times u explain it or say what to do in such a simple event.
im not saying im the best and i know it all , but it is what it is , some players are better than others and have more gameplay wise than others and notice things.

and muerte said a very simple phrase that its absolutely right " So many changes, so much difficult, people who play this game play because it is easy and many are not capable of playing something more complicated. If we want complicated game, we would play another game." 

world bosses drops etc that can be changed of course , but in my first post just to not be disrespectfull to your work i tried to give some idea/visions as long termed experienced player , to try to make it less "hard and complicated" for the less gameplay wise players,  the things that u want to apply are very "complicated" and "hard" for the players i mentioned in the phrase above, specially the stun curse that is basicly a BM skill being used every 5 seconds during 30seconds ( that i also completly dislike and should not exist and switched to ice+miss (just a suggstsn)) , and the immunity buff , immunity buff is a BIG no no doesnt matter the circunstance , but is just my opinions . 

about the max for cs im still very against of having 40 members to join cs per guild/ally , i understand ur wishes of tests etc , but in my view and imagening how a CS will be , if 20-25 dont even follow them in the V2 system ,  there is NO WAY to guide or give calls to 40 players , it will be pure chaos and such disorganization between everyone that trying to say anything or coordinate will be so frustating that the "leader" will just leave things in gods hand and hope for the best just to not get frustated over a game.

I am open for the idea of a pool before the Phoenix for this limit but there are certain conditions that won't be changed such as:
- Ally guild will have 100% access at CS, not limited outside CS, that's for sure.
- Total players at CS to not be lower than 30 per alliance.
- Total members per guild to not be lower than 25.

i would like very much to see 120 players as u said , in worst case 80 , but definetly not 40 from 1 guild , if these are the conditions that u putting , in my view i highly suggest then to bring it down to 25 per guild and 30 total for cs ( the ideal would honestly be between 15-20) , just my suggestion , so a pool should be created imo since im most likely not the only one that agree's on this one
 

if we are getting stuck at same level for 1week + 2-3days max lets say , and multiple times , and as u saying - should be kinda easy to have 120 players at cs ( which i agree) and worst case 80 players . 
why trowing out 80 players only in 2 guilds when whit this 80 we can make 3 guilds , and better case , 4 guilds whit 120 ? or even 5 and give more value to signs of honor .
guilds whit less max members for CS have way more organizition and can be well more prepared and planned for it , even tho its not always the case , but its 99% more accurate than trying to do something whit 40
most of us do not even have the time or patience for such thing , and theres far more players that play this game for fun / no tryhard 
i would agree having 40 later on in the end game.
so we dont want to encourage 4 guilds to cs , but we want more ppl to participate on it and not limiting the pleasure that he would not join due to not be strong enough , 
im gonna give examples here , starting from squadron - we never wanted the "weaker" ones to play , why ? u will play bad or feed points , same whit HC , same whit nosgoth , same whit horde etc , same whit every guild leader will say or think - " hes not good enough , pick other or go whit less 1 " , this is what happens , because X times in rankings there was players whit 30 40 50 60 70 deaths in a space of 1-2 cs's .

So if i have 40 players to pick and 10 of them are in this category , i will leave them out , its the way the things work , not being arrogant or anything but it is like this even in a sports team ,

so why stack 40 players in such a changed event to have such chaos , disorganization , dramas , literaly impossible to guide / calling out , having the time and patience to bring up strategies for after instead of enjoying it , we be leaving it out frustated 

i dont want to spread hate or disvalue ur time that u come up whit this, for the contrary ,  as a "mu addict" like many others here , i appreciate the work and changes, and i do like this system , but for things that u see in ur vision , for us players that are more aware of the gameplay etc , we see it differently 

u took all the words i had for a long time in my mind about making such changes , wanted to say this for some time but ye .. 

but beside this , changes are always good but at a certain point , and considering the previous state , as has muerte said about struggle coordinations strategies reading etc , 80% of the players do not play such events correctly and will never do it and this has been proved and seen many many X times and i witnessed it all over and over , even now in inception after all the DB's people just dont know how to play an event no matter how many times u explain it or say what to do in such a simple event.
im not saying im the best and i know it all , but it is what it is , some players are better than others and have more gameplay wise than others and notice things.

and muerte said a very simple phrase that its absolutely right " So many changes, so much difficult, people who play this game play because it is easy and many are not capable of playing something more complicated. If we want complicated game, we would play another game." 

world bosses drops etc that can be changed of course , but in my first post just to not be disrespectfull to your work i tried to give some idea/visions as long termed experienced player , to try to make it less "hard and complicated" for the less gameplay wise players,  the things that u want to apply are very "complicated" and "hard" for the players i mentioned in the phrase above, specially the stun curse that is basicly a BM skill being used every 5 seconds during 30seconds ( that i also completly dislike and should not exist and switched to ice+miss (just a suggstsn)) , and the immunity buff , immunity buff is a BIG no no doesnt matter the circunstance , but is just my opinions . 

about the max for cs im still very against of having 40 members to join cs per guild/ally , i understand ur wishes of tests etc , but in my view and imagening how a CS will be , if 20-25 dont even follow them in the V2 system ,  there is NO WAY to guide or give calls to 40 players , it will be pure chaos and such disorganization between everyone that trying to say anything or coordinate will be so frustating that the "leader" will just leave things in gods hand and hope for the best just to not get frustated over a game.

I am open for the idea of a pool before the Phoenix for this limit but there are certain conditions that won't be changed such as:
- Ally guild will have 100% access at CS, not limited outside CS, that's for sure.
- Total players at CS to not be lower than 30 per alliance.
- Total members per guild to not be lower than 25.

i would like very much to see 120 players as u said , in worst case 80 , but definetly not 40 from 1 guild , if these are the conditions that u putting , in my view i highly suggest then to bring it down to 25 per guild and 30 total for cs ( the ideal would honestly be between 15-20) , just my suggestion , so a pool should be created imo since im most likely not the only one that agree's on this one
 

if we are getting stuck at same level for 1week + 2-3days max lets say , and multiple times , and as u saying - should be kinda easy to have 120 players at cs ( which i agree) and worst case 80 players . 
why trowing out 80 players only in 2 guilds when whit this 80 we can make 3 guilds , and better case , 4 guilds whit 120 ? or even 5 and give more value to signs of honor .
guilds whit less max members for CS have way more organizition and can be well more prepared and planned for it , even tho its not always the case , but its 99% more accurate than trying to do something whit 40
most of us do not even have the time or patience for such thing , and theres far more players that play this game for fun / no tryhard 
i would agree having 40 later on in the end game.
so we dont want to encourage 4 guilds to cs , but we want more ppl to participate on it and not limiting the pleasure that he would not join due to not be strong enough , 
im gonna give examples here , starting from squadron - we never wanted the "weaker" ones to play , why ? u will play bad or feed points , same whit HC , same whit nosgoth , same whit horde etc , same whit every guild leader will say or think - " hes not good enough , pick other or go whit less 1 " , this is what happens , because X times in rankings there was players whit 30 40 50 60 70 deaths in a space of 1-2 cs's .

So if i have 40 players to pick and 10 of them are in this category , i will leave them out , its the way the things work , not being arrogant or anything but it is like this even in a sports team ,

so why stack 40 players in such a changed event to have such chaos , disorganization , dramas , literaly impossible to guide / calling out , having the time and patience to bring up strategies for after instead of enjoying it , we be leaving it out frustated 

i dont want to spread hate or disvalue ur time that u come up whit this, for the contrary ,  as a "mu addict" like many others here , i appreciate the work and changes, and i do like this system , but for things that u see in ur vision , for us players that are more aware of the gameplay etc , we see it differently 

This new system seems pretty nice and very unique , but there are some things , for me personally as long time player in this server, that i find not being the most balanced and also fixing the most important thing , which was activity on it(more guilds)+ competition.
I will start from the top -
Having 30 players in a guild + ally and 40 players from both can join cs will not solve the issue that we been facing all this time , that is having 2 guilds fighting for it , the focus here was to give chance to other guilds to win CS , but after X amount of cs's ive played here, having 40 players will not solve this , why? Lets say the 2 top guilds are full + whit enough ally to go , there would be 80 players on castle siege , only from 2 guilds , and whit this is basicly the same as before + huge mess. In my opinion stacking 40 players each guild/ally for CS is way to much and prevent new guilds to rise.

in the V2 Cs system , there was some CS's ive played that 3 guilds participated , and i can give a recent example that was in last phoenix DB , where hardcore + nosgoth + squadron have fought for cs , while the chances for winning were higher for hardcore , squadron and nosgoth managed to register multiple times , and also when 1 registered, the other 2 were fighting for it , and the guild registered just had to control switches by letting each attacking guild having each switch , and there was one win for nosgoth that this happened , squadron holding one HC another . this is a just a example , there was few more CS's like this whit horde+nosgoth+hardcore , not many because drama is always present , but is very possible to be like this constantly specially in a non rr edition  and how ? How i see is like this -

Maximum members in each guild should be max 20 and ally 20 
-I truly believe that whit a less amount of max players in a guild can be forced for new guilds to be created and participate, because in a non rr edition most of the players that are not even in top 100 are in the same level as stats/gears and the chances of win are pretty high due to also other guilds competing
-Its already hard sometimes to get 20 to play , and having a need to have 40 will be frustating.
At cs u can join whit the 20players + 10 from ally but ally cannot go inside of castle.
-Like this the 2 statues outside can be focused by 10 from ally , 5 on each one ( depending on calls and needs) and the 20 from guild fighting inside , that also can help outside if needed.
Removing the 20% points u get from repairing statues to reduce the handicap.
Removing the immunity buff that you can get from controlling the both statues. ( In my opinion having immunity is a buff should not exist in any way , it can be frustating to one guild dominate this and constantly save GM or strong BM's to survive and not die , specially the GM.) 
- Just having the % on kill points and % on defense points are pretty much enough to make the difference.

Gigas Golem
 - Stunning is very very powerfull , and we see it already just like being iced for example, and being stunned for 5secs every 30seconds during 3 minutes is really too much.
I would switch this curse to a miss chances or slow for 2minutes every 30s , OR mixing both for 3 minutes whit a random chance every 30sec ( the slow that we cannot use antidote to recover , like the ice effect from the RF skill) it feels more balanced like this.
- Points curse - the last 30minutes are crucial and stopping points from all sources during 3 minutes is huge , so instead of 3minutes of no points , cutting between 50% to 80% of all gaining points during 2 minutes feels more balanced also.
One of the biggest thing i liked too see was the individual reward , it makes the players that plays buffer or going ice arrow or stamp or any other role , it makes them feel valuable and able to win something for they role+effort , and also the ones from ally fighting outside.
And the rewards for it can be rethinked a bit instead of giving a pack of jwl or a ob5 , its 2 hours of gameplay and try hard , im not saying to give huge rewards but a bit more than a simple pack  or chance for ob5 can be added , for example X hours whit a max of 1-2days  added in the vip package ( if doesnt have vip a exp buff same as vip would be added for X hours whit a max of 1-2days) , all depeding on the networth made by the player , this is just an idea , any reward can be given at a certain progress of the game , i just feel that the rewards can be more interesting
Even tho this new system hasnt been played yet , in my personal view and experience , this new features for sure have potential and will be pretty fun + competitive , but the amount of players in a guild needs to be reduced in order to new guilds being made , and being able to compete for cs , because when theres 3 guilds , specially now whit this system , the chances for the strongest guild of the server imo are highly reduced 

Along whit some changes that for sure will be needed , the most important one for me personally is the max members ,  and some other that i pointed out are my opinions that would make the CS more balanced for the guilds participating 

 

This new system seems pretty nice and very unique , but there are some things , for me personally as long time player in this server, that i find not being the most balanced and also fixing the most important thing , which was activity on it(more guilds)+ competition.
I will start from the top -
Having 30 players in a guild + ally and 40 players from both can join cs will not solve the issue that we been facing all this time , that is having 2 guilds fighting for it , the focus here was to give chance to other guilds to win CS , but after X amount of cs's ive played here, having 40 players will not solve this , why? Lets say the 2 top guilds are full + whit enough ally to go , there would be 80 players on castle siege , only from 2 guilds , and whit this is basicly the same as before + huge mess. In my opinion stacking 40 players each guild/ally for CS is way to much and prevent new guilds to rise.

in the V2 Cs system , there was some CS's ive played that 3 guilds participated , and i can give a recent example that was in last phoenix DB , where hardcore + nosgoth + squadron have fought for cs , while the chances for winning were higher for hardcore , squadron and nosgoth managed to register multiple times , and also when 1 registered, the other 2 were fighting for it , and the guild registered just had to control switches by letting each attacking guild having each switch , and there was one win for nosgoth that this happened , squadron holding one HC another . this is a just a example , there was few more CS's like this whit horde+nosgoth+hardcore , not many because drama is always present , but is very possible to be like this constantly specially in a non rr edition  and how ? How i see is like this -

Maximum members in each guild should be max 20 and ally 20 
-I truly believe that whit a less amount of max players in a guild can be forced for new guilds to be created and participate, because in a non rr edition most of the players that are not even in top 100 are in the same level as stats/gears and the chances of win are pretty high due to also other guilds competing
-Its already hard sometimes to get 20 to play , and having a need to have 40 will be frustating.
At cs u can join whit the 20players + 10 from ally but ally cannot go inside of castle.
-Like this the 2 statues outside can be focused by 10 from ally , 5 on each one ( depending on calls and needs) and the 20 from guild fighting inside , that also can help outside if needed.
Removing the 20% points u get from repairing statues to reduce the handicap.
Removing the immunity buff that you can get from controlling the both statues. ( In my opinion having immunity is a buff should not exist in any way , it can be frustating to one guild dominate this and constantly save GM or strong BM's to survive and not die , specially the GM.) 
- Just having the % on kill points and % on defense points are pretty much enough to make the difference.

Gigas Golem
 - Stunning is very very powerfull , and we see it already just like being iced for example, and being stunned for 5secs every 30seconds during 3 minutes is really too much.
I would switch this curse to a miss chances or slow for 2minutes every 30s , OR mixing both for 3 minutes whit a random chance every 30sec ( the slow that we cannot use antidote to recover , like the ice effect from the RF skill) it feels more balanced like this.
- Points curse - the last 30minutes are crucial and stopping points from all sources during 3 minutes is huge , so instead of 3minutes of no points , cutting between 50% to 80% of all gaining points during 2 minutes feels more balanced also.
One of the biggest thing i liked too see was the individual reward , it makes the players that plays buffer or going ice arrow or stamp or any other role , it makes them feel valuable and able to win something for they role+effort , and also the ones from ally fighting outside.
And the rewards for it can be rethinked a bit instead of giving a pack of jwl or a ob5 , its 2 hours of gameplay and try hard , im not saying to give huge rewards but a bit more than a simple pack  or chance for ob5 can be added , for example X hours whit a max of 1-2days  added in the vip package ( if doesnt have vip a exp buff same as vip would be added for X hours whit a max of 1-2days) , all depeding on the networth made by the player , this is just an idea , any reward can be given at a certain progress of the game , i just feel that the rewards can be more interesting
Even tho this new system hasnt been played yet , in my personal view and experience , this new features for sure have potential and will be pretty fun + competitive , but the amount of players in a guild needs to be reduced in order to new guilds being made , and being able to compete for cs , because when theres 3 guilds , specially now whit this system , the chances for the strongest guild of the server imo are highly reduced 

Along whit some changes that for sure will be needed , the most important one for me personally is the max members ,  and some other that i pointed out are my opinions that would make the CS more balanced for the guilds participating 

 

Hello,
While our unique CS V2 fixed the most important CS problem - being decided in last minutes, on the default CS system - we decided that it is time to step up our most important Event and make it even more interesting, balanced as well, as less predictable as possible and with a lot of new possible strategies.
This is one of the major reworks that will be found on our next Phoenix project, but it should be ready & available on Inception as well starting from next CS (27 February).
We're doing our best to test everything by ourselves (me & Gion), but we will need actual, real-game tests in order to tweak it up and fix any possible bugs.
Note: We're waiting feedback & open discussions of anything that you can find in our CS V3, but the more accurate feedback should be waited after playing it.
 
CS System V3
Guilds, Alliances, Handicap & Requirements
[UPDATED] Guild System: Maximum of 30 players in a Guild (static). Now Alliance members can join the CS as well. At CS you can only have 40 (online) players per alliance (so 40/60 from total slots in an alliance). You must have at least 10 players from the main guild online at CS in order to play the CS. There are 2 modes of the limit at CS, that each alliance GM can decide: Free Mode - it is the default mode - this means that any 40 players can be online on CS server anytime, during CS, without restrictions. How does it work? When the 40th player enters the Valley, any extra player (41th, for example) will be moved to Crywolf, when trying to enter the Valley. When there are 39 players in Valley, an empty slot is once again free for another extra player, and so on. Note: The priority for staying in Valley when there are more than 40 players is based on the order of /rebuilds. Example: ADMIN is 1st that did rebuild, Gion is 2nd that did rebuild, Marcel is 3rd that did rebuild. If there are < 40 players on Valley, all 3 can stay in Valley. If there are 40 players already in Valley and ADMIN is not but Marcel is, if ADMIN joins Valley then Marcel is being kicked from Valley and ADMIN can stay. Limited Mode - this means that there's a list controlled by alliance GM with the players who do not have access to CS (any player other than the players from this list can join the CS). GM can add/remove players to/from the list anytime before 15 minutes from start & during CS. Note: GM can use the command /blacklist PlayerName in order to blacklist a player from the CS. Note2: GM can use the command /delblacklist PlayerName in order to remove a player from blacklist. Note3: Few seconds after blacklisting a player, if he is online in valley he will be moved to crywolf and prevented from joining Valley. [UPDATED] Handicap now has only 3 stages: Easy - 2nd CS after winning the CS: -2500 Points. Medium - 3rd CS after winning 2 CS in a row: -6000 Points. Hard - 4th CS after winning 3 CS in a row and onwards: -10000 Points. Note: With these changes we aim to make it way harder for Alliances to win CS multiple times in a row. Until now Handicap wasn't that harsh and didn't help too much outside of the last Handicap stage (after 5 Sieges in a row). [UPDATED] Repairing & upgrading CS objects (gates, statues) can grant you up to 20% points from the Handicap. [UPDATED] After winning a Castle Siege, the players that were part of the CS (used /rebuild) and part of the winning alliance can only join the next CS with their winning Alliance. Example: ADMIN is part of OldSquad, went to CS last CS with his guild and was part of CS. OldSquad won the CS. ADMIN can only join next week's CS with OldSquad guild. Example2: OldSquad is in alliance with ADMINS, ADMIN is part of OldSquad and Gion is part of ADMINS. OldSquad alliance wins the CS. Next week both ADMIN & Gion can join CS only with OldSquad alliance (as main alliance guild). Note: This change is made to avoid cases of winning Guilds remaking their guild / join another guild for CS just to get rid of Handicaps. [UPDATED] Now you can play the CS only with the guild/alliance that you started with when you did /rebuild. You can't join other guilds/alliances during CS. [UPDATED] Requirements in order for an alliance to be able to register Signs of Lord: Have at least 20 members in main guild. Have the Average Reset of main guild >= 65% of TOP1 Player reset (rounded down). Example: If TOP1 Player has 6 Resets, the minimum Average Reset of the Main Guild must be 3. Exception: This check is only available when the TOP1 has at least 6 resets (under 6 resets the check is not active). [UPDATED] Requirements in order for an alliance to be able to stay in Valley before & during CS: Be selected as CS participant (after Signs period). Have at least 20 members in main guild. Have the Average Reset of main guild >= 65% of TOP1 Player reset (rounded down). Example: If TOP1 Player has 6 Resets, the minimum Average Reset of the Main Guild must be 3. Exception: This check is only available when the TOP1 has at least 6 resets (under 6 resets the check is not active). Have at least 10 players from main guild online in either Crywolf or Valley. Have /rebuild already made. Note: The check is happening every minute. Note:
During years we've tried all the possible methods of guild systems especially for CS. Some performed better than others, but none of them were totally satisfying.
We're once again trying something new, compared to what we had so far.
With this current system we aim to give back identities to the allied guilds, encouraging lower-tier guilds to ally each-other and to participate at CS without having to be part of the main guild, while keeping the CS players numbers in a balanced state.
New CS Features
[ADDED] CS Statues There are now 2 statues, one is on the East side outside the room (104x 192y) and one is on the West side outside of the room (77x 145y). These Statues are now extra mini-objectives during CS. They can be controlled by one alliance at a time. In order to control a Statue your alliance must have AT LEAST 2 players in its 5x5 range (the statue zones are marked with 4 guards). In order to control a Statue your alliance must have the highest number of players (compared to rest of the alliances) in its 5x5 range. Examples: If OldSquad does have 1 player in the 5x5 range of a Statue, and no other Alliance does have any player in the range, then the Statue is in a neutral state (not controlled). If OldSquad does have 2 players in the 5x5 range of a Statue, and no other Alliance does, then the Statue is controlled by OldSquad. If OldSquad does have 2 players in the 5x5 range of a Statue, and other Alliance does have 1 player in the range, then the Statue is controlled by OldSquad. If OldSquad does have 2 players in the 5x5 range of a Statue, and other Alliance does have 2 players in the range, then Statue is controlled by the Alliance that already controlled it. If OldSquad does have 2 players in the 5x5 range of a Statue, and other Alliance does have 3 players in the range, then Statue is controlled by the other Alliance. East Statue advantage: While holding the East Statue, your alliance will gain +100% (in the first CS hour) / +50% (in the second CS hour) Defense points per second, until the alliance lose the control of the Statue. West Statue advantage: While holding the West Statue, your alliance will gain +50% (while a Kill Points modifier is still active) / +100% (while a Kill Points modifier is not active) Kill Points based on the final number of points a killer would normally get. If your alliance holds both statues then the following buff will be up for your alliance until you lose at least 1 Statue: GM will gain damage immunity, preventing him from being damaged, while the buff is active. Note: The immunity buff for GM when holding both statues does make him immune from being moved as well. [ADDED] Gigas Golem Every 12 minutes after it is killed or it is despawned (starting at 17:30) a Gigas Golem will spawn in the Valley, before the Bridge, at fixed coordinates. Gigas Golem has 3 minutes duration, then it is auto despawned. The Gigas Golem is another mini-objective, but a timed one. The alliance that does the last-hit on the Gigas Golem will put one of the following curses (randomly) on their opponents: Points Curse - Stop the points gained from all sources for 3 minutes. Stun Curse - Stun every opponent for 5 seconds every 45 seconds, for 3 minutes. CS Gameplay, Points & Rewards
[UPDATED] Kills & Points System is reworked: TANK build is now considered ANY character (except of RF and ELF) that has AGI+VIT higher than 65% of Total Points. Killing an Assistant now grants 1.5 * Default Points (from 2 * Default Points). Killing a Battle Master still grants 2 * Default Points. Killing a TANK now grants 2.5 * Default Points (from 3 * Default Points). Killing a Guild Master now grants 4 * Default Points (from 5 * Default Points). Default Points per kill is now 8 Points instead of 10 Points. During higher kill points period, the points can now be changed to 10-18 Points instead of 12-25 Points. The Reset Difference Points are now +- 0.5 Points based on the reset difference between killer and target. New: In statues 8x8 range, you gain & lose 50% of the points you normally gain/lose in the same conditions but inside the CS room. Example: If a Kill inside the CS room would net you 24 points, the same kill in the statues 8x8 range will get you 12 points. The Minimum amount of Points that you can get for a kill inside CS room is now 5 Points (instead of 2), and still no Maximum value, no matter the type of kill or bonuses. The Minimum amount of Points that you can get for a kill in Statue's range is 3 Points, and no Maximum value, no matter the type of kill or bonuses. The reset difference formulas will always apply before any modifier, in the case of normal kills. Example: If ADMIN kills Gion and ADMIN has 30 resets and Gion 27, while Kill Points are 8 then ADMIN gets 8-(0.5*3) = 7 Points. If ADMIN's alliance does control the West Statue then ADMIN gets +50%/100% * 7 Points = 11/14 Points on the same kill. If the kill is being made in Statue's range then ADMIN gets 6/7 Points. Now the Battle Masters no longer ignore reset differences. Instead, they now gain + 25% points per kill for any normal target kill (that does not have any special role). Apart from reset difference & special role, we now also have extra points gained per kill based on the current total points of the target: You gain an extra 10% (inside CS room) / 5% (in Statues range) of the target total points per kill. The extra points are going directly towards your Alliance and are not counted to your own points/performance, as well as not counted for the target feed points. General Example: Let's say ADMIN is part of OldSquad and Gion is part of ADMINS. ADMIN has 20 resets, Gion has 17 resets. ADMIN is also Assistant, Gion is a Guild Master. ADMIN has 400 Kill Points, Gion has 200 Kill Points. Default Points is the normal value (8 Points). When ADMIN kills Gion (inside the CS room) this is what happens: ADMIN gets 8*4 (extra Points from killing a GM) = 32 Points. ADMIN's alliance (OldSquad) is getting 32 Points (ADMIN's performance) + 0.1 * 200 (extra points for alliance from Gion's total points) = 52 Points. When Gion kills ADMIN (in statue's range) this is what happens: Gion gets 8*1.5 (extra Points from klling an Assistant) * 0.5 (statue's range reduction) = 6 Points. Gion's alliance (ADMINS) is getting 6 Points (Gion's performance) + 0.05 * 400 (half bonus extra points for alliance from ADMIN's total points) = 26 Points. On old system: ADMIN & OldSquad gets 10*5 (50 Points from killing a GM) = 50 Points. Gion & ADMINS gets 0 Points because the kill was made outside the room. [UPDATED] Now CS Initialization is made 9:30 minutes after CS does start (instead of after 14:30 minutes). [UPDATED] Now every Alliance GM that is part of CS will get a Life Stone every 15 minutes (starting at 17:30) as long as his Alliance isn't currently having the most points at CS. Note: The previous, unused Life Stones will be deleted when a new one is generated. Note2: If Alliance GM does switch / reconnect / leave CS server, the Life Stone is deleted. Note3: The Life Stone is gained only if the GM is online and on Valley at the moment when Life Stones are delivered. [UPDATED] Now you no longer get an extra DEF Point if you stay on the Crown position as Defender GM. You still get only half DEF Points if you are outside CS Room. [UPDATED] Life Stones now have the maximum possible Defense but a HP of 175k (from 30kk). Note: This means that no matter how many stats a character does have, it will do similar damage to Life Stones (50-300) so in order to kill them faster you need more people attacking them (no matter their total stats). [UPDATED] Now you get the full DEF Points if the GM is in 5x5 range of the East Statue (DEF Points statue). [UPDATED] DEF Points distribution: 1 Point per second between 17:10 and 17:34. 2 Points per second between 17:35 and 17:59. 3 Points per second between 18:00 and 18:24. 4 Points per second between 18:25 and 18:44. 6 Points per second between 18:45 and 19:00. [UPDATED] Removed TOP3 Contributors / TOP3 Stampers concepts. They are now replaced with a single TOP5 Net Worth: Net Worth is an accumulation of every CS player activity & performance during each CS. Formula for Net Worth calculation: (Total Kill Points - (Total Feed Points * 0.7)) + Stamp Seconds + Activity Time where: Total Kill Points = The amount of Points you personally contributed for you Team. Total Feed Points = The amount of Points you gave away to other teams while being killed. Stamp Seconds = The amount of seconds you held a Switch. Activity Time = 0.15 Points for every second while a CS Participant is online in Valley during CS. This value is raised to 0.4 Points per second if the Player is inside CS room or in 5x5 range of the Statues. Example of Net Worth: ADMIN has 1400 Total Kill Points, 420 Total Feed Points, 200 Stamp Seconds, 60 minutes in valley during CS & 50 minutes inside CS room / statues. ADMIN's Net Worth is: 1400 - (420*0.7) + 200 + 60*60*0.15 + 50*60*0.4 = 3046. Note: Stamp Seconds are updated 1 time per minute. [UPDATED] Now there's an individual reward based on Net Worth for any CS Player: Minimum Points that your alliance must have gained at CS in order for the players to be eligible for individual rewards: 1500 Points. Minimum Net Worth to be eligible for individual reward: 1000. Default Reward: 10% chance for 1x OB5 / 90% chance for 10s/10c/10cr/10gem. The Net Worth will dictate the % chance for getting the special box as reward, as following: (NetWorth/100)% = box chance. Examples:  Having 1000 NetWorth = 10% chance for special box (OB5 in Inception's case). Having 1200 NetWorth = 12% chance for special box (OB5 in Inception's case). Having 2450 NetWorth = 24.5% chance for special box (OB5 in Inception's case). Having 5500 NetWorth = 55% chance for special box (OB5 in Inception's case). The rest of the chance is for guaranteed 10s/10c/10cr/10gem. Bonus Reward: Players with 4000+ Net Worth will also win 2x VIP Days. [UPDATED] Reworked summoner Sleep duration on CS server: Under 5000 / 10000 / 15000 ENERGY (based on Stage) = Sleep is blocked. 5000-7999 / 10000-15999 / 15000-26999 ENERGY (based on Stage) = Sleep duration is 2 seconds. 8000 / 16000 / 27000 ENERGY (based on Stage) = Sleep duration is 3 seconds. [UPDATED] Now summoner Sleep hit chance on CS server is 80%. [UPDATED] Now players that are under Sleep effect on CS server can't be damaged. The immunity gained by a player under Sleep effect does make him immune from being moved as well. Note: With these changes we aim to introduce new ways of playing the Summoners at CS and new strategies around Sleep. You'll now have to react to Summoners and bring players to help with the Summoners and/or waste the Summon from DL just to save the Sleeping players. Extra Changes & Quality of Life
[UPDATED] Removed LOT entry Tax. [UPDATED] Removed the global messages when killing GAs & BMs to reduce the spam (only GM & Tank kills are highlighted now). [UPDATED] You can now use /rebuild until the CS does start. Which means you have 15 minutes of unlimited rebuilds (in case you make a mistake with the points). [UPDATED] Now when typing /score you will see the following info: On global (middle screen):  Alliances score as usually + Players in valley for each alliance. Current DEF Points / Kill points as usually. Time left for the next Gigas golem spawn / ALIVE status. West Statue & East Statue controllers (if any). On system chat (top left side): Your current Kills, Deaths, Kill Points, Feed Points, Net Worth. The current Banned Build. [UPDATED] Now when typing /score +Name during CS it will show you the same info of the Player that /score does show to you. [UPDATED] Now /assist command that the assistants can use has a cooldown of 90 seconds instead of 120 seconds. [UPDATED] Now /assist can be used in 3 ways: /assist -> Will teleport the assistant to the GM. /assist east -> Will teleport the assistant to the East Statue, if the guild is currently controlling the East Statue. /assist west -> Will teleport the assistant to the West Statue, if the guild is currently controlling the West Statue. [UPDATED] Now the points earned / bonuses, etc. are no longer rounded up / down. They are given as float values unless it is specified that something is rounded up/down (for example, avg. reset requirement for CS). The final Points / Scores / etc. will still be counted as integers. Example: If DEF points are 3 per second and you get + 50% DEF Points with the statue, then you'll get 4.5 Points instead of 4 or 5 Points. Example2: If you get 25% more points as a BM and you kill a target that would give you 11 points, you'll get 13.75 Points instead of 13 points or 14 points. Example3: If your alliance total points is 5563.60, you'll actually have 5563 Points. If your final NetWorth is 1120.7, then your NetWorth is 1120. [UPDATED] Now Both Attackers & Defenders can spawn after dying anywhere before the first gates of CS & before the second gates of CS (60x - 95y -> 130x - 150y) [UPDATED] Summon (DL) now has 80 seconds cooldown (from 50 seconds). Final Notes
With the CS V3 release we aim to:
Make the CS way more interesting and less predictable. Encourage smaller-scale fights outside of CS room (for Statues & Gigas). Encourage lower tier guilds to participate at CS. Since we rewritten entire CS System code from scratch there may be bugs that you'll encounter (even with features that were 100% working before). Make sure to screenshot & report anything wrong you may find so we can fix it.