Phoenix [Phoenix] Early look at the big economy rework

[ADMIN]

This is an early look at most of the changes related to our new economy ecosystem that will be found on Phoenix as well as on future Inception editions.

Pre-notes:

The main problem of our game activities was the lack of motivating rewards. Some events were giving too much, while some events were giving too little. And there was always the chance of getting something bad off a better reward.
One of the root problems was also the inflation of jewels from server. While they were attractive early on, their value just vanished during time due to the alts farm. 

One thing that always bothered us is that the market control was always in the hands of the biggest/most active players, while the rest of players didn't have much to say in the economy and had to "eat" the sometimes "insane" prices for some items.
We're also looking to address that with our new Old Box System, creating more opportunities for normal players to get in touch with valuable items and to spread them more equally across the game.

Jewels Changes

Jewel of Life

• All items from game will now drop with add + 0 (non exc, exc, ancient & socket).
• Droprate from monsters highly reduced.
• Added in drop table of many events & mini-bosses.

Jewel of Creation

• Permanently removed from drop from monsters.
• Added in drop table of many events & mini-bosses.
• If you reach maximum amount of fruit points (100/115/127 based on character) - you will receive an extra 150 points to add.
  • You need to have level 400 in order for the 150 bonus points to be active.

Jewel of Bless

• Droprate from monsters decently reduced.
• It will now be used for new mixes.

Jewel of Soul

• Droprate from monsters highly reduced.
• It will now be used for new mixes.

Gemstone

• Droprate from Kanturu3 & Relics highly reduced.
• Added in drop table in some other events/mini-bosses.

Jewel of Chaos

• Droprate from monsters highly reduced.
• Added in drop table of many events & mini-bosses.

Extra Changes:

• Loch's Feather, Crest of Monarch, Flame of Condor, Magic Backpack & Sphere level 4 now have an INSANELY LOW drop rate from monsters on their maps (you can consider that they aren't even dropping from monsters).
• Fenrir materials can no longer drop from monsters in spots (Kalima6).
• Icarus is now a normal levelling map.
• Quiz Event has been removed from game.
• Illusion of Kundun has been removed from game.

With these changes we aim to:

• Nerf the ALTS farm to the ground.
• Reduce inflation of jewels to keep them relevant across the game.
• Add new uses to some jewels in order to keep the IN/OUT flow of jewels in economy more balanced.
• Make the jewels & more important drops more accessible from different places outside of alt farm.

BoKs changes

• Now BoK+1, BoK+2 & BoK+3 will all drop the same Set Items:
  • Leather
  • Bronze
  • Vine
  • Silk
  • Pad
  • Bone
  • Violent Wind
  • Scale
  • Brass
  • Wind
  • Spirit
  • Sphinx
  • Light Plate
  • Plate
  • Dragon
  • Guardian
  • Legendary
  • Adamantine
  • Red Wing
  • Sacred Fire
  • Storm Crow
• Now BoK+4 and BoK+5 will both drop their specific Set Items as well as all the BoK+1~3 Set Items:
  • Leather
  • Bronze
  • Vine
  • Silk
  • Pad
  • Bone
  • Violent Wind
  • Scale
  • Brass
  • Wind
  • Spirit
  • Sphinx
  • Light Plate
  • Plate
  • Dragon
  • Guardian
  • Legendary
  • Adamantine
  • Red Wing
  • Sacred Fire
  • Storm Crow
  • Ashcrow
  • Iris
  • Eclipse
  • Valiant
  • Black Dragon
  • Dark Steel
  • Ancient
  • Dark Phoenix
  • Divine
  • Grand Soul
  • Glorious
  • Storm Zahard
  • Thunder Hawk
  • Black Rose
• The BoKs will still drop their own tier weapons, where the higher the BoK the higher the weapon tier.
• Now the BoKs have progressive luck & 2/3 options rates as following:
  • BoK+1: 20% chance for Luck / 15% chance for 2 options / 1% chance for 3 options.
  • BoK+2: 25% chance for Luck / 20% chance for 2 options / 2% chance for 3 options.
  • BoK+3: 30% chance for Luck / 25% chance for 2 options / 3% chance for 3 options.
  • BoK+4: 40% chance for Luck / 35% chance for 2 options / 5% chance for 3 options.
  • BoK+5: 50% chance for Luck / 40% chance for 2 options / 6% chance for 3 options.

With these BoK changes we aim to:

• Make the completion of a full 2 options excellent set harder especially early on.
• Motivate higher players to hunt higher BoKs since they can get the item they want (if they want a lower tier item) from the higher boks as well, but with way better chances for luck & 2/3 options compared to the lower BoKs.
• This will create more space & opportunities for the lower players to farm the lower BoKs themselves while still having chances (but lower) for good items.

Extras:

• In order to make the specific BoK+4/BoK+5 sets still possible to be completed in a timely manner (due to the new BoKs changes), we've added them as extra drops from:
  • Kundun: 50% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2 options, apart from the normal reward.
  • Nightmare: 100% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2, apart from the normal reward.
  • Dark Elves: 30% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2, apart from the normal reward.

New Old Box system

• There are now only 3 Old Boxes instead of 5:
  • Early Old Box, Mid Old Box, Late Old Box.
• There are no longer "rare items" - well, on Phoenix they never were there, but they won't exist anymore on Inception as well, starting from the next edition.
• There are no longer jewels in the Old Boxes (outside of gemstones).
• Each Old Box can be obtained on events based on their name.
  • Basically, Early Old Box can be obtained from Early-Game events/bosses/mini-bosses, and so on.
• Each Old Box will contain ONLY relevant items/rewards for the content stage where they can be obtained. 
  • Basically, Early Old Box will contain valuable Early-Game items/rewards, and so on.
• Old Boxes are still non tradeable and it is not possible to be moved to vault.
• There's now a new Chaos Goblin Mix for the Old Boxes, that will keep them relevant during entire edition, as following:
  • You can craft a Mid Old Box by mixing:
    • 3x Early Old Box
    • 2x Jewel of Chaos
    • 2x Jewel of Creation
    • 4x Jewel of Bless
    • 4x Jewel of Soul
    • 60.000.000 Zen
  • You can craft a Late Old Box by mixing:
    • 3x Mid Old Box
    • 5x Jewel of Chaos
    • 5x Jewel of Creation
    • 10x Jewel of Bless
    • 10x Jewel of Soul
    • 200.000.000 Zen
• This Mix will:
  • Motivate mid-game/late-game players to still farm early/mid boxes.
  • Giving new chances to average players to get late-game rewards, even if they can't contest the highest events/bosses.
  • Give new ways of spending jewels & zen in order to boost the economy.
• Early Old Box rewards:
  • EXC. BoK+1~3 set item with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options, for the class that drops the Old Box.
  • Mid-Tier ancient for the class that drops the Old Box.
  • Wings Level 1 +luck+5~9.
  • Lochs Feather.
  • Crest of Monarch.
  • 10x BC.
  • 10x DS.
  • Magic Backpack.
  • 20x Splinter of Armor / 20 Bless of Guardian / 5x Claw of Beast.
• Mid Old Box rewards:
  • EXC. BoK+4~5 specific set item with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options, for the class that drops the Old Box.
  • BoK+5 weapon with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options, for the class that drops the Old Box.
  • Last tier exc weapon with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options, for the class that drops the Old Box.
  • High tier ancient for the class that drops the Old Box.
  • Wings Level 2 with the same chance for luck/options as the chaos mix.
  • Piece of Horn.
  • TOCA.
  • 20x Gemstones.
  • Flame of Condor.
• Late Old Box rewards:
  • Socket Weapon for the class that drops the Old Box.
  • 380 Weapon.
  • EXC. last tier set item with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options, for the class that drops the Old Box.
  • Broken Horn.
  • Flame of Condor.
  • Talisman of Luck (W4).
  • Seeds (DD REF HP)
  • Ring of GM - While being equipped, this ring will give the character maximum resistances to all attributes (ice, poison, lightning, fire, etc.) - basically making it immune from being moved / iced / poisoned.
  • Rings/Pendants with guaranteed 2 options and a small chance for 3 options.

Events changes & rewards

• Rabbits invasion
  • They will now invade 4 times per day instead of 3 times.
  • There are now 60 Rabbits / invasion instead of 90 Rabbits / invasion:
    • Maps: 15x Lorencia, 15x Noria, 10x Elbeland, 10x Devias, 10x Dungeon.
  • Reward: 65% chance for jewel (Bless, Soul, Chaos, Life) - 34% chance for 4.000.000 Zen - 1% chance for Early Old Box.
• White Wizards invasion
  • There are now 3 WW per invasion instead of 5 and are now considered early-game bosses.
  • There are now 30 Orcs per invasion instead of 50 and they spawn in different maps compared to the WW bosses:
    • WW: Elbeland, Dungeon, Devias.
    • Orcs: 15x Orcs Lorencia, 15x Orcs Noria.
  • WW Reward: 10x jewels (bless/soul/chaos/life/creation) + 40% chance for Early Old Box + 15.000.000 zen.
  • Orcs Reward: 10% chance for Wizard's Ring, 40% chance for Jewel (bless/soul/chaos/life/creation), 48% chance for 4.000.000 Zen, 2% chance for Early Old Box.
• Cursed Dragon & Bloody Witch Queen
  • They will now spawn together, at the same time:
    • 1 time between 17:00 and 21:59.
    • 1 time between 09:00 and 12:59.
  • Cursed Dragon: Early game boss. Reward: 1x Early Old Box + 10x jewels (bless/soul/chaos/life/creation) + 50% chance for Feather/Crest (35% Feather, 15% Crest).
  • Bloody Witch Queen: Mid-Late game boss. Reward: 85% chance for Mid Old Box / 15% chance for Late Old Box + 20x jewels (soul/chaos/life/creation/gemstones) + 2x last tier EXC set items (GD, DM, etc.) with 2 options.
• Imperial Event
  • Bosses are rewarding 3 Jewels (Soul/Life/Creation) + 10% chance for Talisman of Chaos Assembly.
  • Optional objective: Kill the Statues and get 2~3 extra Jewels (Bless/Soul/Chaos) that anyone from party can pick.
  • Sunday final boss: 1x Talisman of Chaos Assembly.
  • Weekly records rewards:
    • Having 35+ Points: 10x Jewel of Harmony + 1x TOCA + 1x Mid Old Box
    • Having 25-34 points: 5x Jewel of Harmony + 1x TOCA + 1x Mid Old Box.
    • Having 15-24 points: 5x Jewel of Harmony + 1x TOCA + 1x Early Old Box.
    • Having 5-14 points: 5x Jewel of Harmony + 1x Early Old Box.
• Chaos Castle
  • CC 1: 2 Jewels (Bless/Soul/Life/Creation) + 10% chance for Star (Rings/Pends exc) + 50% chance for Low Tier Ancient.
  • CC 2: 3 Jewels (Bless/Soul/Life/Creation) + 20% chance for Star (Rings/Pends exc) + 70% chance for Low Tier Ancient.
  • CC 3: 3 Jewels (Bless/Soul/Life/Creation) + 70% chance for Low Tier Ancient / 30% chance for Early Old Box. 
  • CC 4: 4 Jewels (Soul/Chaos/Life/Creation) + 60% chance for Low-Mid Tier Ancient / 40% chance for Early Old Box.
  • CC 5: 4 Jewels (Soul/Chaos/Life/Creation) + 50% chance for Low-Mid Tier Ancient / 50% chance for Early Old Box. 
  • CC 6: 5 Jewels (Soul/Chaos/Creation/Gemstone) + 60% chance for Random Ancient / 20% chance for Early Old Box / 20% chance for Mid Old Box.
  • CC 7: 5 Jewels (Soul/Chaos/Creation/Gemstone) + 60% chance for Random Ancient / 40% chance for Mid Old Box.
• Kanturu Event
  • Rewards from Hands: 3 Jewels (Bless/Soul/Life/Creation).
  • Rewards from Nightmare (BOSS): 1x Exc. Weapon (Knight Blade, Platina Staff, etc.) + 60% Chance for Mid Old Box + 100% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2 options, apart from the normal reward.
• Kundun
  • Rewards: 2x Random Mid-High Ancients + 40% chance for Mid Old Box + 50% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2 options, apart from the normal reward.
• Medusa
  • 4 Socket Set Items with 3 slots (and lower chance for Socket Shields with 3~4 slots) + 30% chance for Late Old Box + 10% chance for a 380 Weapon.
• Selupan
  • Rewards: 5 Socket Set Items with 3 slots and 1 Socket Weapon with 4~5 slots + 50% chance for Late Old Box + 10% chance for a 380 Weapon. 
• Crywolf Event
  • Balgass drop: 2x Mid Old Box & 3x PoH that anyone can pick at random locations near Balgass (in 12x12 range).
  • Dark Elves drop: 30% chance to drop Mid Old Box, 30% chance to drop Exc. Weapons (Knight Blade, Platina Staff,etc.), 40% chance to drop 100.000.000 Zen + 30% chance to drop an extra BoK+4/BoK+5 specific set item with 2, apart from the normal reward.
• Blood Castle rewards aren't currently set up.
• World Bosses rewards aren't currently set up.
• Illusion Temple
  • IT will be changed to use the Inception's system where you can join on any IT level, everyone gets same amount of stats to add, there's the IT Queue, and so on.
  • IT Rewards aren't currently set up.
• Skeletons Invasion
  • Death King: 1x Early Old Box + 2x Magic Backpack. 
  • Death Skeletons: 75% Magic Backpack / 25% Early Old Box.
• Wings Protector
  • Reward: 100% Wings Level 4 Talisman + 50% chance for Late Old Box.
• Goldens
  • BoK+1 Goldens have a 1% chance to drop an Early Old Box as extra reward.
  • BoK+2 Goldens have a 2% chance to drop an Early Old Box as extra reward.
  • BoK+3 Goldens have a 3% chance to drop an Early Old Box as extra reward.
  • BoK+4 Goldens have 3% chance to drop an Mid Old Box as extra reward.
  • BoK+5 Goldens have a 4% chance to drop a Mid Old Box as extra reward.
  • Golden Budge Dragon has 5% chance to drop an Early Old Box as extra reward.
  • Golden Derkon has 10% chance to drop an Early Old Box as extra reward.
  • GGDs have a 10% chance to drop a Mid Old Box as extra reward.
• Hybrid Events
  • OSGM - apart from the normal guaranteed rewards that will be described on each edition, each participant will have a 5% chance to receive an Old Box based on the current state of server (early game - early old box, and so on).
  • BiA - apart from the normal guaranteed rewards that will be described on each edition, each participant will have a 10% chance to receive an Old Box based on the current state of server (early game - early old box, and so on).
  • Soccer Night - apart from the normal guaranteed rewards that will be described on each edition, each participant will have a 15% chance to receive an Old Box based on the current state of server (early game - early old box, and so on).
  • Arena Tournament - apart from the normal guaranteed rewards, each Last Laugh participant will have a 20% chance to receive an Old Box based on the current state of server (early game - early old box, and so on).

These are currently the planned economy changes for the next Phoenix.

Conclusion: We highly believe that with this complex rework, our goals will be touched:

• All of our events will be way more attractive in terms of gains.
• The alts will be highly nerfed compared to active players.
• The rewards will be better spread for most players to have access to.
• The bosses will be worth the fights for, between the top players.

All of these changes are subject to change and may not represent the true, final version of the rework.
Some of the things aren't yet decided / changed but will be found in an updated official info topic before the launch.

We're waiting feedback.
 

Later Edit:

3 new things I can present you as well, looking for feedback:

Old Jewel

• Old Jewel is a new mid-late game jewel, a custom one, that can either be mixed on Chaos Goblin or found in Late Old Box.
• Old Jewel can be used on excellent set items / shields with minimum level of + 11, that have 1 or 2 exc. options.
• Old Jewel will add +1 excellent option to the item (from 1 option to 2 options or from 2 options to 3 options).
• Old Jewel has 100% success rate on items.
• Old Jewel Mix:
  • 30x Jewel of Bless.
  • 30x Jewel of Soul.
  • 10x Jewel of Chaos.
  • 10x Jewel of Creation.
  • 5x Jewel of Harmony.
  • 300kk Zen.
  • 5 exc set items (no weapons) + add12 (or higher).
    • 40% success rate for the mix.
• The Mix goal is to give new opportunities to spend jewels, zen, and trash exc. items as well as to keep them relevant.

Wings Level 4 Mix System

• There's now only 1 universal Statue for all classes to mix: Goat Statue.
• It is no longer tradeable via Store (and still no other means).
• Goat Statue Mix:
  • 4x Mid Old Box.
  • 60x Jewel of Bless.
  • 60x Jewel of Soul.
  • 30x Jewel of Life.
  • 20x Jewel of Chaos.
  • 20x Jewel of Creation.
  • 10x Jewel of Harmony.
  • 1x 380 Weapon + 15 + Add16 (Any).
  • 1kkk Zen.
• Wings Level 4 upgrade Mix:
  • 1x Goat Statue.
  • Wings Level 3 +15+Add16 (your class wings, if you mix SUM wings3 you will get SUM wings4, if you mix ELF wings3 you will get ELF wings4, etc.)
  • 3x Late Old Box.
  • 90x Jewel of Bless.
  • 90x Jewel of Soul.
  • 60x Jewel of Chaos.
  • 60x Jewel of Creation.
  • Talisman of Luck.
  • 1.5kkk Zen.
• Note: Wings Level 4 will now 100% come with both options (ign & ref).

Heart & Medals

• Now there's only Heart of Love dropping.
• The set items that can drop from Heart of Love are now the set items that were dropping on both Silver Medal & Gold Medal + the violent wind set from old Heart of Love.
• The weapons that can drop from Heart of Love are now the weapons that were dropping on both Silver Medal & Gold Medal.
• Luck chance of Heart items is 35%.
• Items from Heart can be dropped starting from +6 up to +11 (with a 4% chance for +11 and 8% chance for +10).
• As per the new Jewel of Life change, all items from Heart will drop without ADD.
• Heart of Love will drop from monsters between Level 18 & Level 100 with a rate similar to the old Silver Medal rate.

[Alex.]

I would like to say that i really like the new system and where its going.

35 minutes ago, ADMIN said:

Quiz Event has been removed from game.

If quiz is getting removed, i would also prevent somehow low level alts from farming low BC's for chaoses.

 

35 minutes ago, ADMIN said:

Now BoK+1, BoK+2 & BoK+3 will all drop the same Set Items:

I think BOK+3 items should be moved with BOK4 and BOK5 because items that can drop here have a lot of armor and would make silver and golden medals worth nothing.

Example: BOK +1,2,3 can drop exe legendary armor, golden medal drops legendary armor.

 

I would really like to know the drop rates from early,midd,late old box system. Is the drop rate the same among all dropable items?3

 

 

LE:

Are there any plans for PVM points? I would really wanna be able to buy boxes with PVM points. Currently PVM points are almost worth nothing.

Personally i would like all events to give PVM points(in small amounts).

 

Can we expect some kind of Moss Merchant where we could buy boxes with zen any time soon?

[Chukundah]

58 minutes ago, ADMIN said:

Now BoK+4 and BoK+5 will both drop their specific Set Items as well as all the BoK+1~3 Set Items:

if i drop a vine item from bok5 its a instantly X 

1 hour ago, ADMIN said:

BiA - apart from the normal guaranteed rewards that will be described on each edition, each participant will have a 10% chance to receive an Old Box based on the current state of server (early game - early old box, and so on).

this event should be done more often since its a pvp event

rest of changes are good , the only thing idk about is the fenrir mats on early box , seems more like a mid box drop

[ADMIN]

18 hours ago, Alex. said:

If quiz is getting removed, i would also prevent somehow low level alts from farming low BC's for chaoses.

I'm open for suggestions. I'd personally only give a BC ticket with 1 entry for those that win the BC statue in BC1-3/1-4, so they still get something but nothing useful for alts.

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I think BOK+3 items should be moved with BOK4 and BOK5 because items that can drop here have a lot of armor and would make silver and golden medals worth nothing.

Example: BOK +1,2,3 can drop exe legendary armor, golden medal drops legendary armor.

I don't agree with such thing. You'll still have way more def from the ++ non exc items from medals than from a +0 exc item. In the end, such bok3 exc items does also drop from mobs on low maps, and thus not making any change.

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I would really like to know the drop rates from early,midd,late old box system. Is the drop rate the same among all dropable items?3

They aren't set yet but no, they'll have different rates for the drops.

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LE:

Are there any plans for PVM points? I would really wanna be able to buy boxes with PVM points. Currently PVM points are almost worth nothing.

Personally i would like all events to give PVM points(in small amounts).

It is planned, but as a future update during the edition.

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Can we expect some kind of Moss Merchant where we could buy boxes with zen any time soon?

Not anytime soon.

18 hours ago, Chukundah said:

the only thing idk about is the fenrir mats on early box , seems more like a mid box drop

I do feel the same, since it isn't "useful" for early game. We'll see about it if it stays or not.

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2 new things I can present you as well, looking for feedback:

 

Old Jewel

• Old Jewel is a new mid-late game jewel, a custom one, that can either be mixed on Chaos Goblin or found in Late Old Box.
• Old Jewel can be used on excellent set items / shields with luck and minimum level of + 11, that have 1 or 2 exc options.
• Old Jewel will add +1 excellent option to the item (from 1 option to 2 options or from 2 options to 3 options).
• Old Jewel has 100% success rate on items.
• Old Jewel Mix:
  • 30x Jewel of Bless.
  • 30x Jewel of Soul.
  • 10x Jewel of Chaos.
  • 10x Jewel of Creation.
  • 5x Jewel of Harmony.
  • 300kk Zen.
  • 5 exc set items (no weapons) + add12 (or higher).
    • 40% success rate for the mix.
• The Mix goal is to give new opportunities to spend jewels, zen, and trash exc. items as well as to keep them relevant.

Wings Level 4 Mix System

• There's now only 1 universal Statue for all classes to mix: Goat Statue.
• It is no longer tradeable via Store (and still no other means).
• There's now 40% chance for the mix to succeed on the Goat Statue.
• Goat Statue Mix:
  • 2x Mid Old Box.
  • 1x Late Old Box.
  • 60x Jewel of Bless.
  • 60x Jewel of Soul.
  • 30x Jewel of Life.
  • 20x Jewel of Chaos.
  • 20x Jewel of Creation.
  • 10x Jewel of Harmony.
  • 1x 380 Weapon + 15 + Add16 (Any).
  • 1kkk Zen.
• Wings Level 4 upgrade Mix:
  • 1x Goat Statue.
  • Wings Level 3 +15+Add16 (your class wings, if you mix SUM wings3 you will get SUM wings4, if you mix ELF wings3 you will get ELF wings4, etc.)
  • 3x Late Old Box.
  • 90x Jewel of Bless.
  • 90x Jewel of Soul.
  • 50x Jewel of Life.
  • 40x Jewel of Chaos.
  • 40x Jewel of Creation.
  • 20x Jewel of Harmony.
  • Talisman of Luck.
  • 1.5kkk Zen.
• Note: Wings Level 4 will now 100% come with both options (ign & ref).

[Alex.]

I personally thing that the old jewel is fine, looking at the costs. Could it be used to add a 4th option though?

[Cerberus]

8 hours ago, ADMIN said:

Old Jewel

• Old Jewel is a new mid-late game jewel, a custom one, that can either be mixed on Chaos Goblin or found in Late Old Box.
• Old Jewel can be used on excellent set items / shields with luck and minimum level of + 11, that have 1 or 2 exc options.
• Old Jewel will add +1 excellent option to the item (from 1 option to 2 options or from 2 options to 3 options).
• Old Jewel has 100% success rate on items.
• Old Jewel Mix:
  • 30x Jewel of Bless.
  • 30x Jewel of Soul.
  • 10x Jewel of Chaos.
  • 10x Jewel of Creation.
  • 5x Jewel of Harmony.
  • 300kk Zen.
  • 6 exc items + add12 (or higher).
    • 40% success rate for the mix.
• The Mix goal is to give new opportunities to spend jewels, zen, and trash exc. items as well as to keep them relevant.

fucking finally a jewel of exc
i like it

BUT 6 items is too much i think, there wont be enough space in the machine for so many items
u have to use very specific small items which is not good, a lot of items will be left out of this mix (ALL items 4x2 are basically out unless u use 4-5 items that are 2x1 like kris or books), u cant even put 6 items 2x2
5 items seems better to me, it is still somewhat restrictive on what items u put but its much better
another option is to make it 4 harmonies instead of 5 and keep 6 exc items

[ADMIN]

4 hours ago, Alex. said:

I personally thing that the old jewel is fine, looking at the costs. Could it be used to add a 4th option though?

• Old Jewel can be used on excellent set items / shields with luck and minimum level of + 11, that have 1 or 2 exc options.

3 hours ago, Cerberus said:

fucking finally a jewel of exc
i like it

BUT 6 items is too much i think, there wont be enough space in the machine for so many items
u have to use very specific small items which is not good, a lot of items will be left out of this mix (ALL items 4x2 are basically out unless u use 4-5 items that are 2x1 like kris or books), u cant even put 6 items 2x2
5 items seems better to me, it is still somewhat restrictive on what items u put but its much better
another option is to make it 4 harmonies instead of 5 and keep 6 exc items

 

Totally true, initially there were 10 harmony (and fine space) but I reduced it to 5 and forgot that the exc space is affected by that.

I'll reduce it to 5 exc items so you can also combine 3x2 items.

What I forgot to mention but I'll edit it now, the requirement is for set exc items, weapons are not included for the mix.

[KKF]

Is there a possibility to use Right mouse click to move items in and out from chaos machine?

[ADMIN]

17 hours ago, KKF said:

Is there a possibility to use Right mouse click to move items in and out from chaos machine?

If it was possible, it would have been already in game long time ago.

[ADMIN]

Follow-up:

Heart & Medals

• Now there's only Heart of Love dropping.
• The set items that can drop from Heart of Love are now the set items that were dropping on both Silver Medal & Gold Medal + the violent wind set from old Heart of Love.
• The weapons that can drop from Heart of Love are now the weapons that were dropping on both Silver Medal & Gold Medal.
• Luck chance of Heart items is 35%.
• Items from Heart can be dropped starting from +6 up to +11 (with a 4% chance for +11 and 8% chance for +10).
• As per the new Jewel of Life change, all items from Heart will drop without ADD.
• Heart of Love will drop from monsters between Level 18 & Level 100 with a rate similar to the old Silver Medal rate.

[KKF]

Anothher question as I cant find it, some1 said to me dun remember who but the realease day for phoenix is 1st of April or its not settled yet?

 

Also what is Black Rose set ?:) i think havent seen it yet

 

[Ilie]

23 hours ago, ADMIN said:

If it was possible, it would have been already in game long time ago.

It is possible, i can give you example in private .

[ADMIN]

1 hour ago, KKF said:

Anothher question as I cant find it, some1 said to me dun remember who but the realease day for phoenix is 1st of April or its not settled yet?

 

Also what is Black Rose set ?:) i think havent seen it yet

No release date for Phoenix. It can release anywhere between 18 March and 08 April, announced with 1 week before.

Black Rose was the old name for the Demonic set of Summoner.

29 minutes ago, Ilie said:

It is possible, i can give you example in private .

It is possible, of course, but not on our files.

[Chukundah]

On 3/1/2022 at 11:00 PM, ADMIN said:

On 3/1/2022 at 4:06 PM, Alex. said:

If quiz is getting removed, i would also prevent somehow low level alts from farming low BC's for chaoses.

I'm open for suggestions. I'd personally only give a BC ticket with 1 entry for those that win the BC statue in BC1-3/1-4, so they still get something but nothing useful for alts.

1chaos + 1 bcticket  or 2b+ticket  , something around this cause bc 1-3 can be abused so much for chaos 

[KKF]

About the Old Jewel, 

Can u consider to make a possibility to dissmis last added exe option?, as if u have item +dd+hp u most likelly gona try to hit 3rd option ref, but probablly its gona be zen or mana,  . Maby u can add another jewel for half of the price of Old jewel to give u a chance to reach set u looking for?

[ADMIN]

6 hours ago, KKF said:

About the Old Jewel, 

Can u consider to make a possibility to dissmis last added exe option?, as if u have item +dd+hp u most likelly gona try to hit 3rd option ref, but probablly its gona be zen or mana,  . Maby u can add another jewel for half of the price of Old jewel to give u a chance to reach set u looking for?

I am totally against such thing, you have sockets if you want to choose your own options. Exc items can't be 'reusable'.

[KKF]

I understand but there is another question, I should mention it earlier in post as there is alwasy RF who doesnt have socket items maby that will change ur mind a bit?

Also same question on Phoenix ( I never rememeber) will RF have EXE PSS ?  as there is no socekt items at all to RF.  

 

and last, GIVE US TEST SERWER!!!

Cheers

[Alex.]

On 3/1/2022 at 5:37 PM, ADMIN said:

Ring of GM - While being equipped, this ring will give the character maximum resistances to all attributes (ice, poison, lightning, fire, etc.) - basically making it immune from being moved / iced / poisoned.

I think this is not ok. I think it advantages the most BK and RF, classes that are already OP in late game.

[KKF]

Hmm with this ring what is the point of M-level resistance? Is it really nessesary to have such op item in game?

 

Maby if that item got some durability like ww ring (max 30 min) but still super op.

[ADMIN]

This new Ring is a personal experiment for late game.

The major problem in late game for melee classes is that they are easily kited by the rest of classes on fenrir.

Outside of melee classes, the ring will mostly benefit players only at CS.

Costing a ring slot (as a cons), the ring will enable characters outside DL class as Alliance leaders, will change strategies around killers/switches and so on.

It is one of the new "late-game" attractive rewards to aim for, and it will be 100% in the game in one form or another.